[chasmo]

The Astro in my mind at least is rasing some serious red flags as regards the SARS out break.
Dont know if any of you folks can remember back to the weekend of Feb.16th when just about every astro person around was talking about the world at war and all kinds of possible horror and all we seemingly got was world wide peace demonstrations.
Well something did happens that weekend that was little noticed by anyone,especially the media.
The Chinnese, that weekend, announced they were haveing a bit of a problem with an atypical virus which has come to be known as SARS.
That recognition of this virus or that its reality should see the light of day at a time when mars is on pluto in oppostion to Saturn is not auspicious!This translates as
Mars,(inflamatiions).Pluto(death)Saturn(the grim reaper)
Flash forward four weeks.
I belive it is Saturday March 15th and us Stoolies who are reading M2M that weekend first hear about this new disease from Plunger as he tells us about the CDC news conference that day and their description of a mystery diesae that was kiling many in asia.
Uranus at this time has been in Pisces a mere four days.
Now Pisces is a sign that rules health instituions and Uranus is a planet that is associated with systemic break downs caused by unrpredictable shocks to the system.
That news about this disease would come out first on a weeknd when the full moon fell on Uranus (feb.16th)and then be recognized in this country just as Uranus is enterering Pisces is a huge heads up!
And what has happend since then? It is the health care workers in Hospitals ruled by Pisces that are catching the disease and spreading it to the extent that already in China they are being quarantined and according to WH the health care system in Toronto is being comprimised by concerns that it is being spread via the hospital system.
Should we be concrened?IMHO you had better believe it!
I had wondered for some time what Mars stationary on Uranus just into Pisces for a whole month next September might mean and Iam now inclined to believe it is the time when our hospitals may not be functioning properly because of the spread of SARS in them.
Even without all of this astro talk. Think about it.This is a cold virus! You dont stop a cold virus via quarantines!!!
Supposedly 18 cases discovered now in NYC.Can you say it wont be long before they shut down the NYSE exchange as part of the quarantine process!
This is going to be the story of the year and Iam wondering if even as soon as next week it will be the excuse being used as to why the market is selling off.
What matters here is how long it takes to run its course. If it is over in a few months then not a major deal.But as I read the US chart Pluto will be opposite mars for at least two years and in the Gemini chart Mars rules the sixth (health) and in the Sibly chart mars rules the 12th(hospitals or places of confinement) .This would indicate that what many of us thought was going to be a crisis about war,(mars), may well be a crisis about, health, and that it will take a couple of years to run its course.
Not sure given the state of the debt markets out there they could survive this kind of 10 sigma event.
Plunger.... if you read this you have been right on in letting us Stoolies know this is not a small thing.As soon as it breaks out in NYC you had better believe the markets will begin to take note big time!

[Hoodwinked]

Good stuff Chasmo.

George Ure over on urban survival has a spread rate marking August 2004 as the saturation point with SARS. 6.9 billion contacts by the end of next Summer.

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm

Last Fall, Neptune was pointing to this event. I had it coming out a different location in Asia {wish I could locate the post}. Neptune is still very prominent according to Merrimans work.

http://www.mmacycles.com/artweek.htm

Now that the war has taken a back seat to SARS, its going to get real interesting. Chasmo I still have 5/7 as CIT zone. Still patiently waiting for clarity to enter short. Scaling in on all pops starting very soon is the plan.

Once again to paraphrase Doc .....90% of what we do is wait to enter a position.

[Hoodwinked]

Forgot to mention this concerning SARS

When you have time do a websearch on olive leaf extract.
As with most products, not all are created equel.

You are looking for a concentration of 10%+ of oleuropien.
Dosage is body sensative to the individual. A good one can be found at most health food stores.

[Hoodwinked]

Vess very interesting. With Summer approaching we also have Summer vacations in the schools limiting the dreaded spread rate of just about any communicable that is floating around. Organized sports with the kids falls off dramatically also until September.

It always seems as September is "sick month" in the Hoodwinked household. All the kids are back together in close quarters jammed into classrooms and buses.

Next November may prove to be very telling as this always seems to be eruption month in the Boston area for the predominant "bug" floating around.

If we do have a jump in spread starting in September, curiosity also abounds concerning the infamous October effect with the markets. Many of the counts and cycles I have been following are also looking towards October for the dreaded 3 of 3 crash, which would coincide with SARS hitting maximum spread rate in North America.

[Drano]

Summer vacations may prove to be the factor that makes SARS a nationwide problem in the U.S. and Canada. The relatively long incubation time means that someone can be exposed, travel elsewhere, or return home, expose others -- and only after spreading the disease, be diagnosed with it.

Then, with SARS established throughout the North America, autumn and return to school will spread it even more. Not a pretty picture.

I just returned from a quick business trip to Florida. I was less than happy to hear people coughing on the plane, which was packed -- not an empty seat. I'll let you know if (cough) it was SARS in about 10 days. (cough)

[simple guy]

Hood, et. al

CIT for 5/7 I may suspect as resumption of uptrend in tech stocks.

I have 5/1 as beginning of good pullback, or Wednesday this week basically as intra-day top of this rally....

Just a Simple Guy, but thats how Im calling it. Im all in cash as of close with nice $$ profits going long recently.

Longs for the pullback are BEAS, ORCL, NXTL, CSCO as my faves E wave wise... possibly ESST as a smaller cap play.

SARS is not the big one, but the mild panic may pick up short term, then subside...

Cheers
SG

[chasmo]

Hood,
I dont know about Neptune being connected with the Sars Virus but I feel very strongly it is connected with Uranus going into Pisces.
Remember Uranus was on the cusp of Pisces on Febuary 16th when the full moon fell on it.
We wont have long to wait to see if Ive got the right read on this as mars goes into Pisces on Jume 17th and then will be in Pisces with Uranus for the next 6 months.
The stationary position of mars on Uranus for almost a month in September is simply huge.
BOCICBW......Mid June SARS should become a major thing in the Media and peoples consciousness if Iam right about this.
I dont, like our starIQ financial expert(not), think Saturn trine is going to help.
Better a Jupiter square than a Saturn trine.What this Saturn trine shows is something deep seated that is a reflection of Karmic propensities that are of a long standing nature and not easily by passed.
I used to think the big one is out there I just was not sure what it was.Now at least I think we have a clue.Time will tell and I dont think we will have to wait past June to find out.

[alceringa]

chasmo, on Apr 29 2003, 04:52 PM, said:

Better a Jupiter square than a Saturn trine.What this Saturn trine  shows is something deep seated that is a reflection of Karmic propensities that are of a long standing nature and not easily by passed.

Sorry to show my ignorance of these matters, but what the hell does that mean?

[phatbubble]

great work chasmo.

alceringa - jupiter is associated with expansion, optimism, and abundance; saturn is associated with contraction, disappointment, and restriction. jupiter is the party and saturn the hangover.

similarly, a trine (120 degrees) is a beneficial or harmonious aspect, and a square (90 degrees) is a difficult or conflicting aspect. basically, chasmo's saying that a bad night in the bar still beats a good day at work.

also, saturn is often mentioned in the same breath as karma. some 'difficult' events take place under apparently 'favorable' saturn transits. saturn rules time, discipline, and the material. what's coming is whatever we've ordered....he's just the postman.

[BAREister]

Vessilin, until they get it under control in China, and the likelihood of THAT is about ZERO, all this sort of conjecture about incubation, etc., will be, thereFUR, largely irrelevant. It is now in Indonesia. Will India be next?

These crowded cities we dwell in are sitting DUCKS for something like this. Even moreso in the Third World.

Well lettuce hope some of YOUR ASStro stuff is better than that ASStro guy, of late. LOL

actually, your innuendo makes it sound like it will be no laughing matter.

[chasmo]

Phat,
Thanks for the explantion of my sometimes high falutin language.
Bare,
The astro has not been giveing any strong signals of late and that is one reason why the market has been able to rise.
I think, and Iam going to do a post on this later, but by May tenth we have some solid negative signals indicating this latest bear market rally is over is.
Mercury around may tenth goes to square of Neptune(confusion no visibility) while also being in a semi square to Saturn doubt fear pessimism). Mercury in moveing to this positon is also moveing to the position of todays new moon.
The new moon today occured in a semi square saturn while applying to a square of Neptune indicating things are not going to go so easy for bully this month.
Is a bearish new moon and if the market does not fall before May tenth when mercury gets to the spot of the new moon it certainly will then as a major change in sentiment occurs.
Today when the globex was shut down Mercury was in an retrograde exact 150 degree angle to Pluto.It could have been a glitch but then again Pluto rules criminal activity or secret doings that undermine the rules of the day light world.
With Mercury retrograde you look for this kind of thing and it does not help the markets.Before this retrograde period of Mercuy is over a lot of traders are going to be seriously wondering what it is all about and if maybe they should find another profession.
"Sell in may and stay away" or as one of my Bully friends said to me recently, "sometimes you eat the Bear and sometimes the Bear....... he eats you".

[threadbare]

Alceringa, It means the their karma ran over your dogma!

[Metamucil]

The durability of a pandemic requires the agent to NOT kill quickly. This is why TB, HIV and malaria are such huge killers.

Contrarianly, one should require rapid deaths.....which thus prevents extensive spread. This is well-illustrated by Ebola.

This is somewhat simplistic, since the plague and 1918 influenza epidemics (most of the latter died of secondary bacterial pneumonia) were rather 'algebraic'. It is nevertheless a guide as to the probability of pandemia.....