Bear Zone Stool for Wednesday, 20 August What if Da Boyz threw a party but no one bought tickets?
#1
Posted 20 August 2003 - 02:16 AM
#2
Posted 20 August 2003 - 08:12 AM
Not a perfect tool for timing as it could go up for a while and a bit higher or go down straight away but the comarison defenitely suggests what we all know. That the bear is not done and we will all know that soon enough.
#8
Posted 20 August 2003 - 02:32 PM
#9
Posted 20 August 2003 - 02:39 PM
Well, duh, is all I can say.
#10
Posted 20 August 2003 - 02:43 PM
ThorAss, on Aug 20 2003, 02:15 PM, said:
When not much is happening (except gold and similar subjects), there is not much to say.
Just my opinion, seems like Stollies are generally boolish on gold, PMs, and are willing to discuss them on other parts of Stoolville. So that takes away some contributions to the Bear Zone.
#11
Posted 20 August 2003 - 03:04 PM
There actually is no reason at all for the Bear Zone if PMS is the only game in town. That is being covered very well by my old friends at the Outpost.
IDS is all about riverboating and having fun. The outpost is a little more sober and circumspect but that is for the good of all I think.
I was hoping that we could create here an atmosphere which was conducive to those who preferred to play this market only from the short side. Notwithstanding a position or position in countercyclicals and gold and also not counting long Bear funds as the long side, I was hoping for a bit more participation from the bears who really have very little interest in catching the last few upside points but were more interested in the whats and whens of making coin off the next decline. This in an atmosphere safe from Haysian acolytes spewing garbage about the October bear market lows and the new bull market.
Well, this is what I thought might happen.
On a bear site.
In the middle of possibly the bearest of bear markets.
Sorry, my bad.
#12
Posted 20 August 2003 - 03:10 PM
ThorAss, on Aug 20 2003, 03:04 PM, said:
There actually is no reason at all for the Bear Zone if PMS is the only game in town. That is being covered very well by my old friends at the Outpost.
IDS is all about riverboating and having fun. The outpost is a little more sober and circumspect but that is for the good of all I think.
I was hoping that we could create here an atmosphere which was conducive to those who preferred to play this market only from the short side. Notwithstanding a position or position in countercyclicals and gold and also not counting long Bear funds as the long side, I was hoping for a bit more participation from the bears who really have very little interest in catching the last few upside points but were more interested in the whats and whens of making coin off the next decline. This in an atmosphere safe from Haysian acolytes spewing garbage about the October bear market lows and the new bull market.
Well, this is what I thought might happen.
On a bear site.
In the middle of possibly the bearest of bear markets.
Sorry, my bad.
I think you summed up the goal of Bear Zone very well. So where is everybody?
By the way, what is the Outpost?
#14
Posted 20 August 2003 - 03:27 PM
Anyway, The Outpost is the term I coined for Stool's Gold when it was as deserted ... well ... as a desert and about as popular as joining the French Foreign Legion. About like here now.
Bearish issues are still discussed on the usual venues of IDS and M2M. There has been some desertion and bad feelings of late and I was kinda hoping some on those who felt disenfranchised would migrate here. Hasn't happened. Seems nobody wants to miss out on even one point up or down. Longer term traders are shortening their timeframes I believe and swing trading on a very short horizon seems to be all the rege. Well, for those not riverboating their way to glory.
#15
Posted 20 August 2003 - 03:39 PM
All my shorts are tech, 19 Nas and 3 listed. All gave good sell signals in August. Most are underwater. 9 of the 22, have been manically bought today with the range being 2% to 7% higher even as the indices remain flat or weaken. I believe that vey soon most of these beauties are going to get hammered.
However, I may have to re-evaluate when and how I enter my short positions in the future for profit maximization with less drawdown.
One thing I would like to have a discussion about is ways to select or scan for short candidates especially from amongst the volatile ones. In other words how to scan for or select which stocks are likely to fall the greatest % in any decline. What criteria do people use etc.
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