Guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 With the recent black out and refinery fire in Michigan and the 2 Airgas fires. I thought I would do a search on refinery fires. Below is a partial list of refinery fires in the past 8-9 months. I'm sure there is more, no the less this is quite astounding. 8/14/03 Fire at Suncor Refinery Causes Fatality http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ncor_fire_col_1 8/16/03 Iraq-Turkey Oil Pipe Repairs May Take Week Once Fire Out http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...308161634000010 8/16/03 Spanish refinery blast toll rises to five http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ol_030816133321 8/15/03 Mich. Refinery Blast Causes Evacuations http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...hon_explosion_2 7/21/03 Fire Reported At Ponca City Refinery http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...lo_koco/1706017 6/23/03 Pipeline blast 'was sabotage' http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,276...,983083,00.html 3/8/03 Mortar attack causes refinery fire in India http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-03...ndia-fire_x.htm 02/22/03 Explosion sparks massive fire at oil refinery on New York?s Staten Island http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nati...ebnyfire21.html 8/17/03 Fire engulfed one of the oil pools of Iran's http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/...rrent%20Affairs 6/23/03 A Fire At Murphy Oil USA Inc.'s http://www.neftegaz.ru/english/lenta/show.php?id=36832 05/28/03 Fire At US Oil Refinery http://www.neftegaz.ru/english/lenta/show.php?id=35988 03/06/03 U.S. West Coast Gasoline Prices Climb After Fire http://www.neftegaz.ru/english/lenta/show.php?id=36170 06/23/03 Fuel pipeline explosion kills 105 http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/arch...6/23/2003056434 06/05/03 Explosion At the Gdansk Refinery http://www.neftegaz.ru/english/lenta/show.php?id=35275 8/18/03 Boiler explodes at Carson refinery http://www.dailybreeze.com/content/news/nmblast24.html 12/02/02 Oil plant hit by explosion http://www.edinburghnews.com/international...m?id=1404082002 6/10/03 Fires Erupt at Two La. Oil Refineries http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgere...ics/6054607.htm 5/17/03 Morocco says casualties in Casablanca attacks http://in.news.yahoo.com/030517/137/24ef7.html 01/28/03 Petro-Canada's Oakville Refinery Fire http://www.newswire.ca/releases/January200...3/28/c4288.html 01/15/03 First Chemical investigation first in state http://www.sunherald.com/mld/thesunherald/4948888.htm 2/26/03 Fire At Marathon Oil Refinery 02/20/03 Tuesday fire BP oil refinery in Whiting, Ind. http://www.csnews.com/csnews/headlines/art...tent_id=1820836
mjkst27 Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 ahh, internet search engines...powering conspiracy theories since 1993 just joshin' :wink2:
Guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 Well, I'm not a full blown conpiracy nut, yet? As I'm still making my tinfoil hat. Just seems unusually high refinery fire and explosions lately, most of which are quietly forgotten.
mjkst27 Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 Well, I'm not a full blown conpiracy nut, yet? As I'm still making my tinfoil hat. Just seems unusually high refinery fire and explosions lately, most of which are quietly forgotten. I can't count the number of stories that are huge news but go un- or underreported. After Enron, it seems to me financial bad news is restricted to a down day in the major market averages. Sad. I still can't get over the way the Shrubadmin basically came out after Worldcom and said in not so many words "we will fix the corporate governance scandal - everyone keep cheating, we'll look the other way after we perp walk Rigas and Martha. Keep on doin whatcha doin"
QuantumOnion Posted August 19, 2003 Report Posted August 19, 2003 Just seems unusually high refinery fire and explosions lately, most of which are quietly forgotten. well, if we were to be scientific about this, we would try to establish a long term trend for refinery fires/incidents. the material provided only goes back as far as 12/02, and it is not clear what time duration your search covered. that is, it is not clear, for example, if the search engine you used covers events prior to 12/02. if it does cover earlier periods, and there are no hits then, yeah, i might sit up and take notice. if, on the other hand, it doesn't cover pre-12/02, then there's no conclusion we can draw from the data. so, bottom line, in order to form some conclusions, we would need to determine what the average number of refinery incidents are, per year, and compare that to your results for 2003. too, even if the number of reported incidents is much higher than trend, we could still ask some questions along the nature of what source material the search engine covers. if it covers popular press exclusively, then one could make an argument that the trend is skewed due to the fact that energy issues, in general, are "selling more papers" in 2003 than they did in the late 90's. then again, gas and oil are, uh, whatyacallit......oh yeah....flammable qo ps: seriously, if i were a terrorist (and, i'll state just for the wreckord, and for the neocons in the bush administration that may be reading this, that i am NOT a terrorist, no sir) i'd be looking at oil/energy infrastructure as a easy target providing a big bang for the buck, given that attacks against this infrastructure can negatively affect large swaths of the population/economy.
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