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I've said all along the wild card would be the Diebold machines. Nobody answered my question: do any of you computer wizards know if tampering can be proven after the fact?

Yes Butters - tampering can be proven after the fact by reading the programming code - or reverse engineering, if code is not available.

 

However, a really really smart programmer can also erase the "mischevious" code and make it look "innocent" - after the damage has been done.

 

Would the tampering be dumb or smart?

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scary, Hunter. :blink:

 

 

huh....bad dozer-news...

 

San Francisco Chronicle - 36 minutes ago

A woman apparently upset about the firing of a friend took five people hostage at a Caterpillar heavy-equipment factory Tuesday, the sheriff said.

Police: Workers report woman with shotgun taking hostages WALB-TV

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quote: Would the tampering be dumb or smart?

 

 

Thanks, Silky- I don't know the answer. Plunger posted that the machines were all connected to a central computer , implying the possibility of a two-way modem. does that make it "smart" ?

 

...and if the code were erased by the really smart programmer, could reverse engineering still work?

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Also on Drudge:

 

"FLASH: Scare TIME/CNN building in NYC, suspicious package closes down portion 6th Avenue... Man on ground, police on top of him -- witness... Bomb squad remove large package / suitcase Tue Nov 02 2004 16:03:25 ET"

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Unsubstantiated...

 

I have no idea if this is true or real.

 

I received the following e-mail from a friend of mine:

 

Networks have this info embargoed until at least 8 pm, but here's how it

looks right now for the swing states:

 

FL: 52/48 - KERRY

OH: 52/47 - KERRY

MI: 51/48 - KERRY

PA: 58/42 - KERRY

IA: 50/48 - KERRY

WI: 53/47 - KERRY

MN: 57/42 - KERRY

NH: 58/41 - KERRY

ME: 55/44 - KERRY

 

NM: 49/49 - TIE

 

NV: 48/49 - BUSH

CO: 49/50 - BUSH

AR: 45/54 - BUSH

NC: 47/53 - BUSH

 

 

 

And then there is this:

 

Kerry Takes Lead in Online Futures After Poll Reports (Update1)

 

Nov. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Traders reversed bets that George W. Bush would win the U.S. presidential election after Web sites posted what they said were exit polls showing John Kerry leading in battleground states including Florida and Ohio.

 

Contracts betting Bush would win plunged to 28.5 from 57 and Kerry futures jumped to 71 from 43, according to Intrade, an electronic exchange based in Dublin known by its Web site TradeSports.com. Winning contracts climb to 100, paying out $10 on Intrade. Losing contracts fall to zero and expire worthless.

 

The Standard & Poor's 500 Index lost most of its advance, Treasuries erased losses and the dollar pared its gain against the euro after the reports appeared.

 

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...qZKE&refer=home

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Early exit polls show Kerry ahead

 

THE SUN HERALD

 

An early cut of the exit polls conducted by CBS shows Sen. John Kerry ahead as a heavy turnout of voters head to the polls in the presidential election.

 

According to the exit polls, Kerry is up by 4 in Florida, Michigan and Ohio and is up by as much as 6 in Wisconsin.

 

 

By far the largest lead for Kerry is in New Hampshire, where the polls show him leading by 18. President Bush, however, is up by 10 in Arkansas and 2 in Colorado.

 

Iowa shows Kerry and President Bush neck-and-neck.

 

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/new...cs/10079929.htm

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Early Exit

Kerry leads.

By Jack Shafer

Updated Tuesday, Nov. 2, 2004, at 2:49 PM PT

 

The first wave of exit-poll data reaching my desk comes from a variety of sources. In some states the sources disagree about the specific margin by which a candidate leads, but never about which candidate is out in front. Some of the confusion may stem from the mixing of morning exit-poll numbers with early afternoon numbers. With those provisos and the understanding that the early numbers are predictive of nothing without their accompanying computer model, here's what I've heard:

 

Florida

Kerry 50

Bush 49

 

Ohio

Kerry 50

Bush 49

 

Pennsylvania

Kerry 54

Bush 45

 

Wisconsin

Kerry 51

Bush 46

 

Michigan

Kerry 51

Bush 47

 

Minnesota

Kerry 58

Bush 40

 

Nevada

Kerry 48

Bush 50

 

New Mexico

Kerry 50

Bush 48

 

North Carolina

Kerry 49

Bush 51

 

Colorado

Kerry 46

Bush 53

 

http://www.slate.com/id/2109053/

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And for gosh sakes be sure to vote if you live in Alaska!  Mantanooooska Thunder**** forever!

 

ANCHORAGE (Reuters) - Voters in Alaska will decide on Tuesday whether to make their state the first in the country to legalize the sale, possession or use of marijuana by adults.

 

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?t...storyID=6675259

GO ALASKA! Somebody's got to start this snowball.

I support that proposal. LOL

 

 

I forgot to mention that we had paper ballots with marking pens. You draw in

the space between two arrows.

When we signed in, we got a piece of paper called voter ID to carry thru the voting

process. From the Registered Voter Book, the lady removed a sticker with my name

and put it on the ID paper. This was cool because if I came back to vote again,

ooooops, my sticker was gone. Simple, and effective.

 

After voting, you put your ballot in a protective folder and turn in the voter ID to the next guy and he tears off the ID strip at the top of your ballot. Then, you take

your ballot to a recording machine and feed it in. The numbers clicked and showed

me as voter #642.

 

Boy was I ever glad we didn't have those Diebold machines. LOL

That's the kind of machines we used to have - don't know why they got rid of them they worked well. If you screwed it up you just filled in all of the arrows for one area and the card would be rejected and they'd give you another one.

 

Don't ask me how I know that. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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