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#61 capitall

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 07:37 PM

I know people going to the Tea parties around here, and they are not paid street people.
I know there is another group named after the seed of a tree that is well know for that kind of activity.
A lot are old folks stand to lose the most under Ocare. According to what I know about Ocare and what I observed about NHS when I lived in the UK, folks over 60 don't get the extraordinary care they receive in the US.
There are a lot of over 60 folks in this country who will die if they don't receive the care they are receiving now and they know that.
It is the duty of old folks to stay healthy until they are ready to die. :ph34r:


That's interesting. Can you give an example of a kind of life-saving care that Medicare recipients recieve here that folks the same age do not get under NHS in the UK? Of course Medicare is already a form of U.S. government-sponsored health care, so possibly those people's benefits might remain the same under Ocare as they are now, regardless of what folks get in the UK.

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 09:20 PM

That's interesting. Can you give an example of a kind of life-saving care that Medicare recipients recieve here that folks the same age do not get under NHS in the UK? Of course Medicare is already a form of U.S. government-sponsored health care, so possibly those people's benefits might remain the same under Ocare as they are now, regardless of what folks get in the UK.



Try cancer treatment. Care is never denied, only postponed until you don't need it. Try various types of heart surgery. Try kidney dialysis ;)

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 09:31 PM

That's interesting. Can you give an example of a kind of life-saving care that Medicare recipients recieve here that folks the same age do not get under NHS in the UK? Of course Medicare is already a form of U.S. government-sponsored health care, so possibly those people's benefits might remain the same under Ocare as they are now, regardless of what folks get in the UK.


Government sponsored is a polite way to put it. It's pure socialism. The premiums are minimal. We soon are not going to be able pay for that. My head exploding comment referred to actual language from seniors about keeping the government out of health care. Cognitive dissonance hardly covers the lack or awareness in that one. Nobody is paying anyone to go yell at these phony small 'd' democratic exercises called Town Hall meetings. They have nothing in common with those quaint New England small town meetings. Oh sure, there was some informational content but mainly they are photo ops for politicians. Or they were. Now they are photo ops for others.

There isn't even any 'plan' at all yet. It's an exercise in legislative sausage making at this point and congress is writing the whole thing. Obama has almost nothing to do with it. Whatever comes out is doomed to be at best a little help to a few people and give broad new avenues of rent seeking to health care corporations. That's all congress does now.

The whole thing is an exercise in make believe anyway. Thinking the economy is going back to where it was before, before this little trouble. That isn't going to happen.

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 09:33 PM

Sea Urchin, the chances of an Orthopaedic surgeon operating on you with your history is almost zero. Unless you had a non traumatic rotator cuff tear. Non traumatic, overuse shoulder pain typically responds to rest, analgesics, activity modification, plus or minus an injection. Don t a sume because you were going to see a surgeon that surgery was going to be a rec. You probably didnt need the P.T. :rolleyes: In my practice I see about 10-15 new patients for every elective surgery I schedule. My elective practice is almost exclusively shoulder and knee surgery. TRADE SAFE


Summoner, I think you are right. I called the orthopedic surgeon specified and explained my situation. His assistant, who picked up my call, immediately agreed and recommended to continue PT, which I did. I am grateful that most doctors I have met are conscientious and with good heart.. except the one I mentioned in an earlier email, and one more. :unsure:

Anyways, it's good to know that we have an orthopaedic surgeon among the stoolies.
You have a good week and good trade! :D

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 10:26 PM

From the "They Don't Even Have to Try Hard Anymore, So They Don't" Department:

Mr. Geithner, in a letter to U.S. lawmakers, said that the Treasury projects that the current debt limit could be reached as early mid-October. Increasing the limit is important to instilling confidence in global investors, Mr. Geithner said.

The Treasury didn't request a specific increase in the letter.

"It is critically important that Congress act before the limit is reached so that citizens and investors here and around the world can remain confident that the United States will always meet its obligations," Mr. Geithner said in a letter to lawmakers.

Wait... what? INcrease the debt limit to assure the world that we'll always meet our obligations??

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 11:52 PM

Try cancer treatment. Care is never denied, only postponed until you don't need it. Try various types of heart surgery. Try kidney dialysis ;)


Well the British system does sound bad. But I have no reason to believe that Obama's plan would be more like the British than e.g. the French plan or some other.

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 11:53 PM

Government sponsored is a polite way to put it. It's pure socialism. The premiums are minimal. We soon are not going to be able pay for that. My head exploding comment referred to actual language from seniors about keeping the government out of health care. Cognitive dissonance hardly covers the lack or awareness in that one. Nobody is paying anyone to go yell at these phony small 'd' democratic exercises called Town Hall meetings.


I wonder how you are so sure that no one is being paid to do this. I've heard differently.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 05:52 AM

Try cancer treatment. Care is never denied, only postponed until you don't need it. Try various types of heart surgery. Try kidney dialysis ;)



Bullshit.

It's that the system in the UK (and Aus/NZ and I would hazard a guess Canada) has the commonsense and the balls to say when it is no longer appropriate to treat patients.

Holding out false hope (and charging through the nose whilst doing it) is immoral and unethical.

The ludicrous proportion of health care costs that are spent in the final weeks of life in the US are a testament to the stupidity of that approach.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 09:11 AM

THE NEW NYSE DATA CENTRE

So the NYSE is buidling a new data centre so that it can surround its trading server with servers stuffed with all the latest high frequency trading software.

Well I guess thats one way to cream of some of the HFTA cream.

Of course if you dont get into the data centre you will be left out in the slow lane.

But even in the data centre some black boxes will be more equall than others.

Some HFTA servers will be closer to the trading server than others - and this able to execute orders more quickly.

A heirarchy of servers will result.

The NYSE should auction off the server slots according to their distance from the trading server.

Actually is could probably securitise the slot distance and float the distance rights as an ETF.

The NYSE could continually issue stock which of course has a limited time periodicity - one week, one month - whatever.

This would capture the entire economic value of the HFTA servers distance from the trading server.

Firms would pay big money to be nearer the trading server as its means their trades are faster.

Does the NYSE have the right pricing mechanism to capture this server distance rent this speed of execution danegeld ?????


Indeed its also more logical to locate all the trading servers together as it will cut down the time it takes to execute trades that have been routed to multiple markets.
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