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#46 The brown one

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:18 AM

Sherlock:

It must have been comforting to discover that you were unable (inadvertently) to breach FED regs and invest in The Carlyle Group!
Private co. pluto's only!

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:18 AM

At its ongoing rate of dollar accumulation China's total stash of dollars will exceed its GDP in five years.

The Canadian trusts purchased in Canada are proving to be a good place to hide from the dollar problem. You get the currency movement, income paid in Canadian dollars, and the natural resource play. So far that strategy has worked better than Canadian bonds.

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:32 AM

buying the home builders at the outset of a depression? What fricking planet are these folks on?
""Pretty bubbleheads preen daily on our financial networks, playing the shill to Wall Street and Washington in order to lure unsuspecting Americans into buying insanely overvalued stocks. The great market exchanges, once prudent arenas of investment where the engine of capitalism traded value for value, have become sham casinos staggering under decades of massive Fed created debt and lurching into oblivion on the greater fool theory. Yet our high level bureaucrats, led by Alan Greenspan, exhort all Americans to consume still more of their seed corn and seek still more fools." N. Hultberg

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:34 AM

refreshed screen and see 14 online- does that mean market continues to tank?

or did PPT signal time for morning tea? :D

maybe interference w/ board count???? :mellow:

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:36 AM

Crude losing boner with dollar down....that wasn't 'sposed to happen, was it.. ;)

Top looks in on Uncle Earl..just need some confirm now...

Copper looks like it is very ready to begin wave 3 of it's decimation move..once it takes out 125..waterfall..

One by one.. the inflation movers gettin' hit..

Lumber 286..the wipeout continues.. :lol:

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:37 AM

kwave: No argument. How do you reconile the above post with insane buying of the homebuilders?
""Pretty bubbleheads preen daily on our financial networks, playing the shill to Wall Street and Washington in order to lure unsuspecting Americans into buying insanely overvalued stocks. The great market exchanges, once prudent arenas of investment where the engine of capitalism traded value for value, have become sham casinos staggering under decades of massive Fed created debt and lurching into oblivion on the greater fool theory. Yet our high level bureaucrats, led by Alan Greenspan, exhort all Americans to consume still more of their seed corn and seek still more fools." N. Hultberg

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:39 AM

Sherlock:

It must have been comforting to discover that you were unable (inadvertently) to breach FED regs and invest in The Carlyle Group!
Private co. pluto's only!

Yeah, but United Defense was a publicly traded company prior to the buyout.

Since I had never even heard, at that time, of the Carlyle Group, I felt comfortable
and safe.

Because of my big mouth, managers at work learned that I was a trader.
Man, you would not believe the efforts they went through to prove that I was
trading on company time. heheheh I Wasn't!
But the key issue was that I had told my manager that his investment in Lucent was
going down. Since he had recommended Lucent to his investment club, circa 2000, He was very committed to that investment. He didnt want to face reality, so he went after me.

His endeavors became so exotic, that I ended up charging him with sexual harrassment.
Picture this: your boss tracking you out in the parking lot ever day when you go home or tracking you and following you after every meeting you attend..
Pictute this: "somebody" sitting in a car in the parking lot watching your every move.
Imagine having witnesses to what you aver to be true.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I am here to tell you that for all the benefits obtained,
Federal Service is a bitch. Not talking about the appointees, who fly on silver
wings, I am talking about the normal, daily, specialists who take care of your
government's business day after day at the lower levels.

I cry for those employees over at Bureau of Labor Statistics that are ordered to
come up with the reports that we see. Behind all that crap, there are honest gov't
emplyees that are facing the same problems that I faced.

The stranglehold of the Administration on the lower level Gov't employees has become an enormous problem. But then, who cares.

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:41 AM

Soup, we are in the minoritiy with our views. Most everyone else sees the markets and economy much different. There are good reasons to think other ways. Nevertheless, I share your frustration.... Eventually all will become clear......

Best wishes....

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:41 AM

buying the home builders at the outset of a depression? What fricking planet are these folks on?

They're on the faith-based planet, soup. As against the reality-based planet.

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:43 AM

kwave: No argument. How do you reconile the above post with insane buying of the homebuilders?

It ain't over until it's over..watchin' Superbubble NVR for a final top..then it should be over..


Also HGX bounced right where it was likely to.. once 375 gets taken again..it should be over..momo looks gone..shouldn't be too much longer..

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:43 AM

This rally is total BS
BKX is not participating and the dollar cant get off the floor
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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:44 AM

AND...
The GSEs are having a peek at Mr reality
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." --- Thomas Jefferson

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:46 AM

refreshed screen and see 14 online- does that mean market continues to tank?

or did PPT signal time for morning tea? :D

maybe interference w/ board count???? :mellow:

It's my observation that Doc's "counter" on who is online is defective.

I have been online many times and yet not shown on the list.
People who have just posted are also not on the list.

My view of the # of online posters as a market indicator is that its bullshit!
If I choose to stay offline, will the market go down?
hehehe look at me my goodness, I am so powerful that I move markets.


IMHO false indicator

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:47 AM

buying the home builders at the outset of a depression?  What fricking planet are these folks on?

They're on the faith-based planet, soup. As against the reality-based planet.

They are going to do what they are going to do, and we will be left to study the charts afterwards...

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 10:50 AM

libertas/jstrack: good point(s). I guess reality is just not an option when the personal debt levels are so high? /// Kwave: Yes , seems to be the last gasp. Folks have got everything placed on red , the house just has to continue to appreciate, any other outcome is unacceptable and unworkable.
""Pretty bubbleheads preen daily on our financial networks, playing the shill to Wall Street and Washington in order to lure unsuspecting Americans into buying insanely overvalued stocks. The great market exchanges, once prudent arenas of investment where the engine of capitalism traded value for value, have become sham casinos staggering under decades of massive Fed created debt and lurching into oblivion on the greater fool theory. Yet our high level bureaucrats, led by Alan Greenspan, exhort all Americans to consume still more of their seed corn and seek still more fools." N. Hultberg





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