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#226

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:09 PM

Oh Puhleez Bearman-the Air National Guard is like driving a checkered Cab-he ducked his Duty Lad simple as that! Sleddy-when the Guy got you in the headlock you cudda phoned BashCroft he wouda put the the guy in Gitmo for re-orientation! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Uh, I don't think so. Anybody that flew the "Duece" had a pair.

“The F-102 was underpowered and, unlike modern fighters, had a split front view through the canopy. It literally had a bar down the center, so you’d have one eye on each side of the bar. It also had a built in altimeter error of up to 500 feet, which made it interesting when you were at 500 feet out over the ocean at night.” Flying and training in the ‘102 was a dangerous job that required a lot of smarts and flying skill.

It was dangerous duty. Harmon said that a couple of pilots were killed in F-102 accidents while Bush was there.

There were five guys that served in the Texas Guard who were contemporaries of George Bush, who didn’t make it to their 30th birthday because they were lost in F-102 accidents and incidents. So to say that somehow this service to the country of air defense is less important, I don’t think is respectful of the Guard and the mission that they have served for so long.

http://www.command-p...ves/010781.html

http://www.arrow-all...2andF-106 .html

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They say that Bush "took the easy way out" by "using his connections" to fly in the Texas Air National Guard. My childhood best friend, John Robert Kelley also took this "easy way out." They had his memorial service in Albuquerque in July 1972 after he died in a training accident, flying a fighter jet in the New Mexico Air National Guard (the "Tacos"). Yep, that was the easy way out! John loved life. He was a fun guy, always with a prank or two, athletic and very intelligent. The last time I saw him, he was scheming how to get me a ride in his jet. Oh, and John didn't use any connections to get into the ANG, because it wasn't necessary. Every time I hear Bush slandered, I sadly remember this loss, and wonder at the lack of respect for the military so common on the left.

http://www.tinyvital...ves/000395.html

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Even in peacetime conditions, F-102 pilots risked their lives on every flight. Only highly-qualified pilot candidates were accepted for Delta Dagger training because it was such a challenging aircraft to fly and left little room for mistakes. According to the Air Force Safety Center , the lifetime Class A accident rate for the F-102 was 13.69 mishaps per 100,000 flight hours, much higher than the average for today's combat aircraft. For example, the F-16 has an accident rate of 4.14, the S-3 is at 2.6, the F-15 at 2.47, the F-18 at 4.9, and the F-117 at 4.07. Even the AV-8B, regarded as the most dangerous aircraft in service today, has an accident rate of only 11.05 mishaps per 100,000 flight hours. The F-102 claimed the lives of many pilots, including a number stationed at Ellington during Bush's tenure. Of the 875 F-102A production models that entered service, 259 were lost in accidents that killed 70 Air Force and ANG pilots.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:11 PM

The McC Osc Topped at 169 yesterday and dropped to 102 today. Feeling good about 1092 spx.
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:24 PM

N.E.,

Tanks. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:25 PM

The pension fund nightmare may now become more transparent ... and, potentially, more of a problem for some companies (and their "investors").

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday voted to allow workers and retirees to find out from a federal agency just how severe the shortfalls are in their companies' pension plans.

Responding to growing concerns about underfunded pension plans, such as at bankrupt United Airlines, lawmakers voted 268-148 to allow the agency that insures pensions to disclose to plan participants the funding information that companies now supply to it confidentially.
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With thousands of pension funds underfunded, ``there is no reason the information should be kept secret,'' Miller declared. But opponents countered that some of the information was very sensitive, especially for private companies.
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http://news.moneycen...0908&ID=3960400

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:37 PM

On Ike, both Price Headley and Stan Harley are bearish.
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:43 PM

K wave,

Hi. Is STRA a short again? I covered at 92 (I think) Tanks for that. It looks like it wants to go down again. What do you think?

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So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:56 PM

I just added that chart to the above post. I will be shorting the stock in the morning. Target at this time is only sub 100.
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Dragged down by the stone.


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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:08 AM

NE- Funny man! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:08 AM

Breaking news: Explosion in Jakarta near Aussie embassy.

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:10 AM

STRA has a gap at 116. No fill?

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:11 AM

Sleddy I luv ya man but if Shrub loses you're gonna have to take his picture off the head of your bed!

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:13 AM

Of the 875 F-102A production models that entered service, 259 were lost in accidents that killed 70 Air Force and ANG pilots.



Sled, a quick search turned up these numbers.........


U.S. Air Force Combat Casualties
1961 - 1973
Vietnam Conflict
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1,741 Killed in Action
931 Wounded in Action
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Killed in Action Breakdown:
1,445 were fixed-wing air pilots and crewmen
76 were helicopter pilots and crewmen
164 were ground personnel
56 were assorted support personnel
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Medal of Honor Recipients - USAF
12
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U.S. Air Force Aces
1


No disrespect to the pilots of the F-102A and the Air National Guard intended.......

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:14 AM

Brian,

And the air brushed pic on my truck too!!!

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:17 AM

An up close version of the STRA chart. With this I am going to bed. Night all.

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And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


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#240 Butterfield 8

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 12:30 AM

thanks TE





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