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#211 Bearman

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 10:56 PM

hypertiger :P says and I quote

"And when the Ignore button doesn't work anymore then you send out death squads...to clean the streets of the evidence of hypocracy.

And people like Bearman are the first in line to sign up for that kind of employment... "

Bearman says get a grip. ajust your meds or call barbara boxer :P

Question/ were you in the million mom march? :P

#212 Hypertiger

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 10:57 PM

Hello stoolers

Bearhugs mentioned a chart posted by Hypertiger in IDS re the Help Wanted Index.

Anybody know what happened to Hyper's post? Did he delete it?

I am very interested in the chart.

It's still there


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i glanced at the chart earlier.... according to that chart, the credit arena has room for expansion and low help wanted ads would be consistent with fairly low unemployment. is that bearish? honestly, i thought the chart would be more bearish. i also believe the 1990 recession lasted longer, so the bar should be wider. also, looks like when the blue crosses down below the red it tends to be toward the end of the recessionary periods. im not an econ expert like HT and i havent studied finance for 600 years, but the chart looks less bearish than my gut tells me.

I don't know how they officially figure out the length of recessions...

I think it is based on GDP growth...

As for bearish...I never said the chart looks Bearish...I look at the chart and it looks like it is bottoming and ready to start blasting to the heavens...

But for that to happen we are going to need debt growth that makes the Monumental Hellicopter drops we just went through like like the mickey mouse club...

Everyone is talking about the massive debt explosion...Well I'm still looking for it...

Where is it? In in 1992 the total debt supply was 14 Trillion dollars...and the DOW was 3300.

In 2000 it was 25 Trillion and the DOW was 11,000 To date it has grown by 10 Trillion to 35 Trillion with the DOW at 10,000...

Well what did it do? I'm still waiting to see the evidence that will allow me to change my thinking...

Everyday I'm looking for the proof to disprove my thinking...

My original prediction of 16-24 months was done in July the Markets have been going sideways and down since April...

Sure hope the real debt explosion shows up soon.
"We are completely dependant on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money (at the request of the consumer) we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system.... It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon." --Robert H. Hemphill, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank,1938...

#213 Madame Wrecked Him

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:07 PM

It's amazing. A day after the event, the story of the 20 sabotaged oil pipelines has still not been covered by the mainstream American media, other than the Washington Post, as far as I can see.

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:12 PM

The End......

Re:  Leadership

This market is getting weird.

Check out the breakouts in BA, AAPL, QCOM, etc.

Yet other stocks continue to get shanked.

Some sectors are holding up very well, others are getting clocked.

One possiblity is a permanent rangebound market in the S & P.

For example, retail and tech could get smoked.  But energy stocks could take off, and who knows, in a hyperinflationary scenario, the homebuilders could keep going up.

The S & P stays rangebound for years, some sectors rise, others fall, permanent rotation for years and years.....

A real bear market takes everything down.  But I remember someone saying that in the 1970's bear market, the oil stocks went through the roof, keeping the S & P from totally collapsing.....

Just one idea as to what could happen.....


BA's BO is gonna be a headfake. melduke covers them in his blog- the most recent order did not include any of the new jets that they have pinned their future to.

edit: Rock, its been cool here this August... tonight actually feels a bit like early Fall.

HT: my bad you didnt say it was bearish, just an erroneous ASSumption
Iat least we're all safe for now. thank God we're in a bowling alley.

#215 Hypertiger

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:24 PM

hypertiger:P says and I quote

"And when the Ignore button doesn't work anymore then you send out death squads...to clean the streets of the evidence of hypocracy.

And people like Bearman are the first in line to sign up for that kind of employment... "

Bearman says get a grip. ajust your meds or call barbara boxer :P

Question/ were you in the million mom march? :P

I have you pegged good...People of your type use those types of phrases when they are outed.

Such as..."You need professional help" or "better check your meds"

Anyways here's more charts to forget you saw.

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"We are completely dependant on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money (at the request of the consumer) we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system.... It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon." --Robert H. Hemphill, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank,1938...

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:24 PM

It's amazing. A day after the event, the story of the 20 sabotaged oil pipelines has still not been covered by the mainstream American media, other than the Washington Post, as far as I can see.

Madame,

I did a google search and came up with over 800 headlines that mention the oil pipelines. So I guess it's just the alpabet channels being low key.


http://news.google.c...tnG=Search News


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#217 Hypertiger

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:28 PM

Hint...If real estate goes...you will be crying for a very long time...

It is the largest debt inflationary engine in the US.
"We are completely dependant on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money (at the request of the consumer) we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system.... It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon." --Robert H. Hemphill, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank,1938...

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:43 PM

Viagra Joke


There were two men standing at the medicine isle in the supermarket the first man said "Viagra is the greatest drug in the world it has helped my love life and I feel much better about my self."


The second man replied "wow it helped you that much! Can you get it over the counter."


The first man said, "If I take two."

#219 The End

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 01:45 AM

Back in April of 2001 Glenn Neely predicted a Huge decline saying some event would trigger it. He was very right.

For almost a year he has been wrong. I have stuck with him simply because of his uncanny ability to set the appropriate stops.

Over the last few weeks he has said and correctly so, that his forcasting ability will improve, now that we are passed the middle part of the formation.

He sees a drop below the 1060 area and as low as 1000 and then a 300 point advance in the spx over a 3-4 month period.

We shall see if he is correct.

Good night all.
NONE of what I type, should be taken as financial advice.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


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#220 Howl

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 06:06 AM

The End: What do you think about Neely's prediction for the Gold market?

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 06:45 AM

The reason the markets didn't surge higher on the recent decline in oil prices is that THE BOYS know the reality of the situation. THE GAME is all about higher oil prices. They bought this dip - and as I stated yesterday morning, news of the MASSIVE ATTACK AND MAJOR DISRUPTION IN IRAQI OIL SUPPLIES was being supressed in the American Media. That does not mean it didn't happen. Oil is going to go parabolic, and the airlines and US auto manufacturers are toast (imagine the US economy doing well as the airlines and the auto manufacturers are failing)...place your bets:

http://money.cnn.com...27/markets/oil/

While anal cysts say the market has been due for a correction for some time, they also say fundamental support is not far below the market, with global demand growth running at the fastest rate in 24 years.

A leading oil shipping anal cyst added on Thursday that crude oil shipments from OPEC were expected to have declined 380,000 bpd in August, countering expectations they would increase.

"The projections are probably not far from the truth in terms of production and exports and are mostly down to interruptions in Iraqi oil supplies," said Roy Mason of consultancy Oil Movements.

"If it's confirmed by other agencies like the IEA (International Energy Agency) and other anal cysts then it runs counter to what we actually thought was going on in August, namely that exports were climbing," he said.





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