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#61 machinehead

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:11 AM

Launch the Anvil Scotty- Aye Capt... anvil away-Blast Shield up all ahead full-she's going to blow!

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:14 AM

A new vehicle to short? http://money.cnn.com...dging/index.htm

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why not have options on the #'s dumps al takes a day

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:18 AM

check out HSY

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:19 AM

A new vehicle to short?  http://money.cnn.com...dging/index.htm

unreal.
why not have options on the #'s dumps al takes a day

Ummm... OK.

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:21 AM

Doesn't look like oil wants to cooperate.

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:24 AM

Doesn't look like oil wants to cooperate.

Can you provide a current quote?
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Guess again, girlfriend.
Or, $2.7 million every effing day since the effing pinball machine.
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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:24 AM

Balls to the wall screaming short once again...
Oil made me do it...
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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:24 AM

Flubber lives...from todays Vancouver Sun P.2 byline Misty Harris... Metal Rubber joins the Indestructibles...A shape shifting material known as Metal Rubber is joining Cockroaches,Twinkies and Keith Richards on the list of things most likely to survive a Nuclear Holoxaust. An invention of chemists at nanosonic in Blackburg Va. Metal Rubber is the stuff of which comic book legends are made. According to Popular Science "You can twist it, stretch it double, fry it to 200 C, douse it with Jet Fuel and it will survive every time. When the abuse stops the materiel "snaps like rubber back to its original shape , all the while conducting electricity like solid metal"..the article goes on to point out the first customer is the Armed Forces..sounds like GreenSlams brain-Huh! ;)

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:28 AM

"More than half of all homeowners who fall behind on payments on loans owned or are insured by the three largest players in the mortgage market are being offered financial rescue plans designed to save them from the horrors of foreclosure."  http://www.washingto...-2004Aug13.html

It's no wonder that with consumer so stretched out we don't see the evidence in housing that one would expect. The question is: Is this an organized, sponsored, program to keep the housing market going or is this just the GSEs trying to avoid collapse? Some of these programs are absolutely ridiculous:

"long-term forbearance. It's the same idea as short-term forbearance, but deals with more serious delinquencies and allows suspension or reduction of payments for four and 12 months."
(Why not just send us a check when you get a chance? Better yet, take all of your monthly payments and buy NDX futures then just pay us back with the profits. See CNBS and late night infomercials for details.)

Partial claims. In certain cases, the FHA "advances" -- that is, pays -- the arrears owed by a delinquent borrower to bring the loan account current. In exchange, the borrowers sign a promissory note secured by the property to repay FHA when they sell the house or pay off the mortgage.
(Since you seem unable to afford this house we have decided to lend you more money???!!! WTF)

It seems we have learned a great deal from china and the environmentalists

Both recognise that "Consumericus brokitus Customeritus" is an endangered species and that loyalty to our Earth Mother Gaia compels us to sacrifice every ounze of brainmatter in our coconuts in order to salvage the remnants of the dying species

Lest we become complacent other species in jeapardy have been seen just over the horizon:ReBrokeritis Syphaleticus", Bankster Ghonawritis".who within a comparatively short time will need the benefits of its symbiotic species "CB Dhiarheaitis Liquiditus"--

Scientific economists, all over the world, are feverishly seeking the solution towards making the interelationships between the numerous species above more companionable lest they wind up burying each other alive
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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:28 AM

A new vehicle to short?  http://money.cnn.com...dging/index.htm

unreal.
why not have options on the #'s dumps al takes a day

Years ago, when I was considering a PHd in Finance, I started a thesis on real estate equity futures. Very similar to this proposal. My proposal focused on more sophisticated institutional properties such as large buildings in major cities. My conclusions and the board of advisors @ UoC agreed:

There is no natural counterparty
Traders cannot hedge this risk
Banks already hedge loan risk through syndication or securitization
Investors are not sophisticated enough to understand or demand such a product (witness the use of ARMs at generational low interest rates, and the inability of most small investors to comprehend options or shorting)
The use of real options is very limited in RE transactions and thus financial options would not reduce existing frictions
* This concept flys in the face of conventional wisdom: Real estate never goes down

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:31 AM

oil up .56

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:32 AM

Do I hear $47?

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:33 AM

The window is expanding stay with it till 5 to the hour-nice Bull trap Huh!

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:37 AM

When is google free to trade?

Assuming it opens around $100, I'd say it will take about six months to get to zero.

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 11:37 AM

A new vehicle to short?   http://money.cnn.com...dging/index.htm

unreal.
why not have options on the #'s dumps al takes a day

Years ago, when I was considering a PHd in Finance, I started a thesis on real estate equity futures. Very similar to this proposal. My proposal focused on more sophisticated institutional properties such as large buildings in major cities. My conclusions and the board of advisors @ UoC agreed:

There is no natural counterparty
Traders cannot hedge this risk
Banks already hedge loan risk through syndication or securitization
Investors are not sophisticated enough to understand or demand such a product (witness the use of ARMs at generational low interest rates, and the inability of most small investors to comprehend options or shorting)
The use of real options is very limited in RE transactions and thus financial options would not reduce existing frictions
* This concept flys in the face of conventional wisdom: Real estate never goes down

Rog you are dam smart :lol: tanks for your thoughts!





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