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#31 BumRush

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:02 AM

Thanks MH! Still concerned about all the outlays not being accounted for....

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:03 AM

Ouch
look what they are doing to silver
down 3%
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:06 AM

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#34 jstrack

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:08 AM

Thank you Dr. Stool...


They pump and they raise rates..... It doesn't seem like this strategy can work. Even if it held the economy and currency up a bit....its a highly highly unstable combination.....

Overall it puts off the adjustment needed for the economy and it makes the system invest more in financial schemes which are not productive.

The bottom line here is that real wealth is not being directed to economic job growth areas and there will not be enough workers with enough savings and disposable income to keep this economy going. The inevitable higher rates on the long side will stop the housing market in its tracks and real business profits will decline.

In any case, the market and econmy is at the end part of the game. The Fed may have excercised its only option available at this point...but its a feeble attempt. Markets will likely fall significantly for the forseeable future. If we don't have a steep decline the rest of the week and next, it will surely come around the September 21st Fed meeting. ...imho

Personally, I think we are headed down from here on out....I haven't seen such a clear and obvious picture of a downtrend ever......

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:12 AM

Thanks MH! Still concerned about all the outlays not being accounted for....

Yes, you are right ... "accounting tricks" to defer expenses into the next fiscal year reach a peak just before the election.

Plus, rising interest rates will make federal debt servicing costs go up. This process starts slowly, but has the potential to gather strength like a Caribbean hurricane and go exponential in two or three years.

The U.S. turned back from walking down that road in 1980. I don't think it will turn back the next time.
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:13 AM

Tanks to Grand Poopercycle, I found the script error that was causing the error message. The number 200 describing the width of the browser buddy in the script that opens the browser buddy, (My Assistant link in top menu), was split in the middle putting the 20 on one line and the 0 on the next, making it unreadable. It was buried in the board's header template. Took me about 15 minutes to find in the boards byzantine mysql coding system, after using the javascript console in Firefart browser to identify it.

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It was always "page loaded but with errors on page".What a service Doc!

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:24 AM

Dick

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I like this one:

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#38 jstrack

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:25 AM

Doc, thanks for the guidance on the economy disconnect with the stock market. I keep talking about it because this time around the stock market decline will also bring down the economy concurrently..... The economic decline will further strain liquidity this time because asset values are going to suffer..... No matter how much pumping the Fed does, its doubtful that it can keep up.... imho But we shall see....weather we enter an inflationary recession/depression or a deflationary one.... There will be trouble and I am not that smart to predict how it will turn out....I'm on the deflationary side this day, hour and minute...subject to change quickly...lol

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:25 AM

Good Morning Crew- I said yesterday morning that Chambers and NutsDuck would crumble into dust after Criscos earnings...little did I realize how right i would be. This looks and smells CRASH ugly..no other way to put it. Window at the bell for one hour and this window looks like a real Bad Ass. Helmets on, lock n load, Buckle up! ;)

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:29 AM

Don't Fear the lawnmower blade...................................................

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:34 AM

Naz and NDX testing Friday/Monday lows -- right here at the get-go!

It's the technical heavyweight championship ... hugely significant.

SOX has broken down this morning to a fresh 11-month low!
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:36 AM

Again FNM being bought
Good sign
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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:37 AM

Elected short at the open stop 1077!

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:39 AM

Naz has fallen below Friday/Monday lows.

This is it ...
"GOLD -- it's not just for misers anymore."

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"Three humps and a dump." - anotherone, 21 SEP 2004

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[i]"Da Track. Da place where Morons bet on Animals Controlled by Criminals."
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#45 Lock Limit Down

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:42 AM

RUT imploding
Its been a long long time since Ive seen an open like this
-1000 tick
LOB!!!!!!!
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