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#16 brian4


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Posted 29 November 2002 - 12:30 AM

You know in listening to Ass master and others there has been quite a conversion on the road to Damascus-which is fine with me - too many Bears spoil the broth! We are on the cusp of a huge DOWN move-very few Bears are in the market and a lot of would be Bears have folded their tents and left. Yep-I'll fade you Ass master-this is and was a wimpy little rally-yet it took out a lot of Bears who SHOULD know better-all the more for Mercy, Pile, Lightening, Aussie and Butt and I. Butt good on ya shorting MXIM-keep it on a short leash. Doc ranks rite up there with Walter Bressert on cycles. Yet a lot of you don't listen-PITY! Trade safe!

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 12:34 AM

You're right, Torah Man.

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#18 brian4


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Posted 29 November 2002 - 01:00 AM

MH-you looked better as R2D2-your current incarnation is going to scare the cildren!

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 03:45 AM

Good plan brian4. :D

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 08:42 AM

That's the Machinehead I know and love. R2D2 looked like a "Made in China" knockoff of Machinehead.

...A declining spenglerian carnival of Colossaalism united with Inflation where the numbers one through 10 are forever banished as worthless arithmetical detritus from a bygone age... - Beardrech

Naturally we believe the govt numbers... and Boobus Americanus sleepwalks off the edge of the energy-crisis cliff clutching his shares of "Crisco", Yoohoo and GooGah munching on his Yum Yums and Ho Hos. Future historians will have a hell of a time figuring out what the hell Americanus neanderthalus was thinking and exactly what brought on his sudden demise... - Henny Penny

Well, good night everyone. I gotta go lube up for tomorrow's regular end-of-week Gold Slapdown and Stock Index Bear Punishment Rally Weekend Greenprint. ...Probably another Shock-and-Awe Gap-Up-Open and Wire-to-Wire Meltup Runaway Bull Charge Mo-Mo Spike to Fresh New All-Time Lifetime Highs, culminating in a 4:15 yelping scalded dog runoff with panic short-covering and legal not-held bad double fills due to fast market conditions, plus quote system freeze-ups and trading platform lock-outs along the way. *yawn* typical gov't Friday. - Shorty

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 09:42 AM

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 12:30 PM

Please add two loose screws to either MH avatar!!!


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Posted 29 November 2002 - 04:43 PM

when this rally finally begins its "correction" as so many out there will be calling it when it happens we're going to be laughing our asses off b/c its not going to be just a "correction" to an "on going 'new' bull market" but the next leg of collapse.



Can you say "lack up support" ?

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 05:23 PM

8 Week winning streak... Can they make it 9? Well they better make it infinity... The longer they float this mess the bigger the splat. Eventually they will run out of "free" money (individual investors/suckers) and the FED will have to buy it all and that will be spotted... And what are the chances of a rapid super dupa recovery in 2003? 0%.
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Posted 29 November 2002 - 05:31 PM


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Posted 29 November 2002 - 07:26 PM

Some of these sectors are screaming "Short Me!"

Next week should give us plenty of opportunity to oblige.

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 12:03 AM

Another site that gives analysis that I respect...

Real Time Traders Market Analysis

They agree with most of the bears here.

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 01:44 AM

In looking over the charts of the last few big rallies (and subsequent failures), it seems that the highest risk/reward opportunity to short the indeces is to wait for the price, 50 dma, and 200 dma to meet - then wait for price to fail backtest at ma50 when 50 dma below 200 dma, which usually happens well after (weeks/months) the top is in and then you have months to ride the downtrend to riches.

As Piledriver (or someone) said, 20% of stocks are rising even in a bear market. So instead of chasing particular hot stocks, I will look for low-risk opportunities to jump on stocks which are beginning trends up. And begin buying index leap puts if I can figure out how (just got approved for put/call buying yesterday).

Anyway, let them come to you. Don't chase rockets or try to catch them at the tip-top. Don't chase falling knives or try to catch them at the exact low.

Since I know you cannot wait to extract some coin on the short side, possible short candidates now include ASML, KLAC, LRCX, SIVB, TQNT, TSCM. Look 'em over and see what you think. B)

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 02:50 AM

Just wanna say hi :) , Dec 3rd or 4th and Dec 10th or 12th are inportant Fib dates, the next two weeks should be very interesting !!!!! Love you Guys keep up the good work!!!! Nice new board DOC.very easy to get around.

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 11:12 AM


Options are great if you can figure out how to minimize commissions. The cheapest broker for options that I have found is here. At only $1 a contract for an unlimited number of contracts, I haven't found a broker that beats that price. Datek charges $1.25 per contract, but with also a $9.95 surcharge per trade added on. Optionexpress charges $1.50 per contract, but with a $14.95 minimum per trade.

To compare those 3, if you wanted to trade 20 contracts at 1.00 premium, you would pay: 20 x 1.00 x 1.00 = $20 per turn at interactivebrokers. At Datek, that same trade would cost 20 x 1.00 x 1.25 + 9.95 = $34.95 per turn. At Optionexpress, that trade would cost 20 x 1.00 x 1.50 = $30 per turn. So the full trade would cost you $40 at IB, $69.90 at Datek, and $60 at Optionexpress.

Since 20 x 1.00 x 100 shares per contract = $2000 invested, your commission percentages are: 40/2000 = 2% at IB, 69.90/2000 = 3.495% at Datek, and 60/2000 = 3% at optionexpress.

That doesn't seem like too much of a difference in commissions, but if you traded the .50 contracts with 40 contracts, total commissions would be 4% at IB, 5.99% at Datek, and 6% at optionexpress. Commissions will magnify the more trades you do.

Datek also limits you to a maximum 200 contracts per trade. No limit at IB or optionexpress.

Hope this helps. Just my opinion, by the way.

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