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#16 TheMotleyStool

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 07:02 PM

I mentioned before, as the market kept pounding higher, that I would add to my BEARX position this fall at much higher prices. Well, I moved the money in today. Haven't bought yet, but the money is there. The market does look like it may be in a topping process. I don't expect a waterfall or anything of the sort, but I'm looking for Fleck to announce he's back in, balls to the walls short.

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 07:19 PM

WHT, added to the S$P/TSX index as of june 20th, any stoolies know if there are any funds following this index, hope today was profitable for the board, still expecting 940 -950 this week.
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Posted 13 June 2003 - 07:20 PM

Tonight Fleck says he expects this rally to end by early July.

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 07:42 PM

I do believe we are in a "topping process." However, I hope we've all learned some lessons about money management from this rally. No matter how confident I am where this market will be one year from now and two years from now, the bulls can jam the tape to the sky and wipe me out if I don't use sound money management. A wise man once said, "Don't ask what the market is going to do tomorrow, ask what you are going to do in response to the market." Another wise man said a similar thing: "trade safe."

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 07:48 PM

Judas Priest
Screaming for Vengeance (1982)
Screaming for Vengeance

Hey listen don't you let them get your mind
Fill your brain with orders and that's not right.
They're playing at a game that draws you closer
Till you're living in a world that's ruled by fear.

Always takin' baby out that's o.k.
What they're givin' maybe it's out of phase with me.
Told you one you're never gonna win the race
Same old no tomorrow kicked in the face.

We are screaming, screaming for vengeance
The world is a manacled place.
Screaming, screaming for vengeance
The world is defiled in disgrace.

Tie a blindfold all around your head
Spin you 'round in the torture before the dread.
And then you're pushed and shoved into every corner
Then they lead you out into the final slaughter.

As the sweat is runnin' down your neck
All your praying for's to stop your body breakin' up.
Oh your heart is pumpin' gonna soon explode
Got to fight the horror of this mental load.

So you wait it out and bide your time
Rip off that straight jacket gotta break that line.
Everyone who wins in the great escape
Leaves a thousand more who suffer in their wake.

I don't talk about it but that's alright
Table's turned now there's a revenge in sight.
If it takes forever babe I tell ya I can wait
Send them screaming back through their hell's own gate.

Have a great weak-end fellow stoolies. B)
NONE of what I type, should be taken as financial advice.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


--Waters

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 08:06 PM

Here come the 'Duppies'

But a better name for them might be "Duppies" -- depressed urban professionals.

They are people like Maureen Miranda, 27, from Jersey City, N.J., who only two years ago was a bona fide yuppie, earning as much as $65,000 annually at her "regular" job as a Web and software designer. She also regularly charged up to $75 an hour for freelance Web design gigs

http://money.cnn.com...ppies/index.htm

:(

#22 Bird D Durr

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 08:40 PM

All the Stoolies are at the Hamptons too.
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Except Mr. Hanky of course. He's in AC! America's playground. :lol:

Speaking AC.............the BirdMan is a big fan and participant.................I play the Don't Pass/ Don't Come on the craps table.................

It's the only thing that has ever made me money over the long term....................

A suitable casino strategy for a short-seller in the market......................

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 08:59 PM

Stained Class
(Judas Priest)


Wild-eyed and tight fisted, I'm fused to the bone
I stand contemplating, reacting alone
Impaled with betrayal
The tourniquet turns
Society's creation
Pole-axed out and burnt

Long ago when man was king, his heart was clean now he's stained class
Time has slashed each untouched thing, so now he's just a stained class king

Transfixed at deliverance, is this all there is
Faithless continuum, into the abyss
Fierce is my conviction, absolute my belief
I spit at you apathy, and seducer deceit

Long ago when man was king, his heart was clean now he's stained class
Time has slashed each untouched thing, so now he's just a stained class king

Lethal, deadly, hung, drawn and quartered
He slaughtered and faltered and altered the world
But by doing so smashed all his hopes and utopian dreams
Whipping, stripping, peeling the flesh off, relentless and senseless
His lust snapped like vipers whose fangs sank in deep
To infest and decay from the core

Impaled with betrayal, the tourniquet turns
Society's creation, pole-axed out and burnt

Long ago when man was king, his heart was clean now he's stained class
Time has slashed each untouched thing, so now he's just a stained class king

Stained class king
I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 09:01 PM

I got a lot of my capital back today, wow! I hope, there is that word again hope that this is a beginning of something beautiful and the market tanks. If it did, then I can talk about how I almost covered when all was dark, hehe. Losing more than a 1/4 of my trading fund is all I can handle and that is my stop. Is this a tease, god I hope not.

Nice day? I think so and with very little jamming into the close. What does everyone think about monday?

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 09:16 PM

Holy Poop.

Check out Nolands peice at PBear. :mellow:

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 09:33 PM

Holy Poop.

Check out Nolands peice at PBear.  :mellow:

no doubt the temporary fix is in.

Too bad its only a near-term temporary fix and not a real lasting one.

Too bad its only going to make things even worse and not better once its inevitable failure begins.

Al and his gang of tinkering buffoons :lol:

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 09:51 PM

From the action in the Tbonds, it is starting to feel like the final derivatives based buying spiral parabola began this week. Straight up until exhaustion, and then the derivatives based selling spiral will begin.

That will not be be pretty.

I'll just watch and be on the lookout for the monster reversal candle with the big spikey top that seems to usually mark the top of the parabola.

Wonder if it will come in early July, after quarter end.

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 10:18 PM

getting damn close but still "no cigar".

http://stockcharts.c...et?obj=ID128959

http://stockcharts.c.../McSumNYSE.html

(trend still up, but way overextended and showing slight signs of faltering, but of course we saw that happen back in mid May and then what happened? ...BONER!)

I'm 50% short SPY and 50% long some well chosen stocks, yes they do exist and yes they can buck the general market trend.

This can still go either way from here. Usually at this juncture I'd say upside to downside is very small but that final parabolic meltup blowoff wildcard is rather spooky. SPX 1020+? Who knows. Playing it safe.

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 10:25 PM

This is from Prubears Doug Noland.

Regarding the Proliferation of Derivatives, I have in the past used a flood insurance analogy: If inexpensive and easily accessible flood insurance becomes available, this development will arouse a self-reinforcing building boom along the river. The newly offered insurance will increase individual risk-taking behavior and set in motion dynamics that pyramid systemic risk. Yet the insurance business will thrive, the riverside economy will boom, and it will appear to happy onlookers as a “miracle economy.” That is, until the inevitable flood arrives.
NONE of what I type, should be taken as financial advice.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


--Waters

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Posted 13 June 2003 - 10:30 PM

Parabola for bonds or stocks, K? You must be talking about the 10-year T. I don't see any evidence of parabola-style moves on the stock indices. Looks like the end of a move to me, with a test of 1020 possible, probably on tired volume and with tired, worn-out indicators.





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