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#1 aussiebear

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:43 PM

Ha, got to use Doc's topic suggestion...

A stodgy start for the early openers: Kiwis +0.4%, Aussies +0.1%, Japan +0.2%, Sth Korea +0.1%.

Aussie sectors ranging from Gold +1.5% down to Miners -1%.

 

 

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:43 PM

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#3 aussiebear

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:44 PM

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:46 PM

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 04:20 AM

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All Ords gave up the struggle to close down -0.4%.  Sectors ranged from Gold +1.2%, Utilities +0.9% down to Miners -2.5% and Materials -2.2%.

Over in Asia, China -0.6%, Hong Kong -0.2%, Japan flat, India currently -0.2%.

 

 

On to UK/Europe:

 

 

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#6 DrStool

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:03 AM

Growing confidence in Trump will cause a durable, long lasting bull market that will start slowly and pick up steam. 

 

DOW 50,000!!!


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 11:29 AM

3 day cycle projection 2297. 2 day 2299. 5 day 2296. 


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 12:13 PM

Growing confidence in Trump will cause a durable, long lasting bull market that will start slowly and pick up steam. 

 

DOW 50,000!!!

 

I thought I saw Flo-Bot wearing a funky Toupee the other day........ :lol:

 

otherwise, just another Flo-Bot Friday For Fe Fraduexes


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#9 DrStool

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 03:02 PM

5 day cycle projection now 2312. 

 

2 and 3 day cycles are in sideways down phases. 


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 04:10 PM

3 day cycle projection now 2306


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 11:54 AM

I'm not sure you will see this Lee but I have an out there idea concerning what may happen with the debt ceiling.  As you surely know in the past, and it only became a close issue during the Clinton and Obama administrations, they  opted to shut down almost the entire government. This despite the fact that enough revenue was coming in to fund around 90% of all spending.

 

Here it gets complicated and the thinking and theory behind this is rather opaque. After all the Treasury could simply decide which bills to pay and of course they could pay all principal and interest on its debt so there would be no default. as the word is commonly understood. That being failure to pay a debt obligation. However those administrations choose to interpret default as meaning every dollar appropriated by congress being an obligation that must be paid so any non payment would be default.

 

Others disagree and I had seen around election time mention that some in the GOP think it would be OK and swell if the Treasury, or actually the White House, decided which bills to pay after all new Treasury borrowing was halted because of the debt ceiling. Simply shut down EPA or lay off a few tens of thousands all through the government. Stop sending payment for all sorts of things they don't like. Imagine the possibilities politically, chaos and worse, but that isn't my point here . Yes administering that would be impossible but.... these guys don't know possible, it's all pure ego and half baked ideology.

 

I know it is out there but just suppose the administration and congress simply stopped increasing the debt ceiling. Imagine the market ramifications of a shortage of Treasury paper, both on Treasury rates but also on stocks. As out there as the idea is it is possible so keep it in the back of your mind.


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 04:44 PM

If the simply fixed the debt ceiling at the level reached in March, that would shut off the supply of Treasuries. If demand remains constant, prices would go through the roof and yields would go through the floor. 

 

Deficit spending currently averages $50 billion a month. So they'd have to cut spending by that much to get there. We are funding about 87-88% of spending via taxes. 12-13% is paid for with borrowing. 

 

The implications of a budget cut of 13% aren't clear, but they would not be good. Both economically, politically, and socially. 

 

Rump wants to increase military spending and infrastructure spending.  Fat chance. 

 

When Rump got elected, I said get ready for a shitstorm. We ain't seen nothing yet. When a Russian economist predicted that the breakup of the US was imminent a couple years ago, I thought it was nuts. Now I don't.  

 

Let's say the blue states secede. That's 80% of the US economy. I don't think that Texas and Florida would be able to support the economic basket cases in the rest of the country. There would be economic collapse and total chaos in world markets.

 

I'm in Europe now. It is already disintegrating. Greece is being slowly but surely depopulated. All of these countries will need to go back to printing their own money.  Trillions of unpayable debts will be written off. The entire European banking system will finally collapse without the ECB doing the smoke and mirrors thing. 

 

I don't think this will end well for any of us. We're ultimately all dead, one way or the other.

 

So it really doesn't matter.

 

The universe will go on expanding just fine without us. 


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 08:04 PM

Well I didn't intend to elicit a rant, as good as it was. Just giving a heads up on something I see as remotely possible and sure I know the consequences. Ones that you alone it seems have discovered which come to think about it is something that explains how we got here. Independent thinking has disappeared. Instead what passes for independent thinking is crackpotism that draws an audience, and  bucks.

 

Still just suppose some in the GOP know about what the market consequences would be. Plunging American rates and a further rally in stocks would drown out a lot of protests.  If Bormann, or is it Bannon Trumps guru knows, then that makes it more likely.  In fact I think a slam dunk which is part of my paranoia. Hopefully I am wrong.


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 10:54 PM

---> Morose Monday

 

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