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#16 alceringa

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 06:55 PM

Oops!

How did the Global Warming alarmist gate keepers let this paper get published in a peer reviewed journal?

Several recent studies have highlighted the possibility that the oceans and terrestrial ecosystems have started loosing part of their ability to sequester a large proportion of the anthropogenic CO2 emissions. This is an important claim, because so far only about 40% of those emissions have stayed in the atmosphere, which has prevented additional climate change. This study re-examines the available atmospheric CO2 and emissions data including their uncertainties. It is shown that with those uncertainties, the trend in the airborne fraction since 1850 has been 0.7 ± 1.4% per decade, i.e. close to and not significantly different from zero. The analysis further shows that the statistical model of a constant airborne fraction agrees best with the available data if emissions from land use change are scaled down to 82% or less of their original estimates. Despite the predictions of coupled climate-carbon cycle models, no trend in the airborne fraction can be found.


Is the airborne fraction of anthropogenic CO2 emissions increasing?-by Wolfgang Knorr
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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:18 AM

The North Pole Strikes Back

"Cold and snow have played havoc across the Northern Hemisphere for more than a week, snarling travel and commerce in Europe and forcing Chinese authorities to curb power use. Much of the U.K., in the throes of its worst chill since 1981, was warned that more was to come. "

http://www.bloomberg...id=aazukSD4qSt4

While the peeps downunder are cooked up

"Residents of Melbourne, meanwhile, sweltered through the warmest summer night in more than a century as Australia’s second-largest city recorded a high of 43.6 degrees Celsius (110.5 degrees Fahrenheit). Victoria state’s electric demand neared a record peak amid railway power failures. "

http://www.bloomberg...id=aGBD63_RUtrE

Fair and unanthropogenic weather according to Faux News.


Global weather imbalance if you ask me. They should change the misleading meme Global Warming to Global Warning.

#18 alceringa

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 09:11 PM

Professor "Hockey Stick" says that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming."
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#19 alceringa

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 06:33 AM

Well, well, well......

From the Institute of Physics to UK Parliament

RE: The disclosure of climate data from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia

"What are the implications of the disclosures for the integrity of scientific research?

1. The Institute is concerned that, unless the disclosed e-mails are proved to be forgeries or adaptations, worrying implications arise for the integrity of scientific research in this field and for the credibility of the scientific method as practised in this context.

2. The CRU e-mails as published on the internet provide prima facie evidence of determined and co-ordinated refusals to comply with honourable scientific traditions and freedom of information law. The principle that scientists should be willing to expose their ideas and results to independent testing and replication by others, which requires the open exchange of data, procedures and materials, is vital. The lack of compliance has been confirmed by the findings of the Information Commissioner. This extends well beyond the CRU itself - most of the e-mails were exchanged with researchers in a number of other international institutions who are also involved in the formulation of the IPCC's conclusions on climate change.

3. It is important to recognise that there are two completely different categories of data set that are involved in the CRU e-mail exchanges:

· those compiled from direct instrumental measurements of land and ocean surface temperatures such as the CRU, GISS and NOAA data sets; and

· historic temperature reconstructions from measurements of 'proxies', for example, tree-rings.

4. The second category relating to proxy reconstructions are the basis for the conclusion that 20th century warming is unprecedented. Published reconstructions may represent only a part of the raw data available and may be sensitive to the choices made and the statistical techniques used. Different choices, omissions or statistical processes may lead to different conclusions. This possibility was evidently the reason behind some of the (rejected) requests for further information.

5. The e-mails reveal doubts as to the reliability of some of the reconstructions and raise questions as to the way in which they have been represented; for example, the apparent suppression, in graphics widely used by the IPCC, of proxy results for recent decades that do not agree with contemporary instrumental temperature measurements.

6. There is also reason for concern at the intolerance to challenge displayed in the e-mails. This impedes the process of scientific 'self correction', which is vital to the integrity of the scientific process as a whole, and not just to the research itself. In that context, those CRU e-mails relating to the peer-review process suggest a need for a review of its adequacy and objectivity as practised in this field and its potential vulnerability to bias or manipulation


The whole document is an interesting read....

http://www.publicati...data/uc3902.htm
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#20 Jetlag

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 06:29 AM

"Today’s campaigners against action on climate change are in many cases backed by the same lobbies, individuals, and organizations that sided with the tobacco industry to discredit the science linking smoking and lung cancer. Later, they fought the scientific evidence that sulfur oxides from coal-fired power plants were causing “acid rain.” Then, when it was discovered that certain chemicals called chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) were causing the depletion of ozone in the atmosphere, the same groups launched a nasty campaign to discredit that science, too.

Later still, the group defended the tobacco giants against charges that second-hand smoke causes cancer and other diseases. And then, starting mainly in the 1980’s, this same group took on the battle against climate change.

What is amazing is that, although these attacks on science have been wrong for 30 years, they still sow doubts about established facts. The truth is that there is big money backing the climate-change deniers, whether it is companies that don’t want to pay the extra costs of regulation, or free-market ideologues opposed to any government controls."

http://www.project-s...achs163/English

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:00 PM

"Today’s campaigners against action on climate change are in many cases backed by the same lobbies, individuals, and organizations that sided with the tobacco industry to discredit the science linking smoking and lung cancer. Later, they fought the scientific evidence that sulfur oxides from coal-fired power plants were causing “acid rain.” Then, when it was discovered that certain chemicals called chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) were causing the depletion of ozone in the atmosphere, the same groups launched a nasty campaign to discredit that science, too.

Later still, the group defended the tobacco giants against charges that second-hand smoke causes cancer and other diseases. And then, starting mainly in the 1980’s, this same group took on the battle against climate change.

What is amazing is that, although these attacks on science have been wrong for 30 years, they still sow doubts about established facts. The truth is that there is big money backing the climate-change deniers, whether it is companies that don’t want to pay the extra costs of regulation, or free-market ideologues opposed to any government controls."

http://www.project-s...achs163/English


More on this issue here of big money backing climate change deniers:

http://www.guardian....limate-sceptics

Notice the names of these anti-GW places funded by big oil. Absolutely Orwellian stuff. No surprise. Big corporate money funded imstitutes pushing big corporate agendas usually call themselves things like Citizens for Humane something-or-other. U would think people would eventually catch on to this. If journalism weren't mostly entertainment nowadays they would.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:16 AM

More on this issue here of big money backing climate change deniers:

http://www.guardian....limate-sceptics

Notice the names of these anti-GW places funded by big oil. Absolutely Orwellian stuff. No surprise. Big corporate money funded imstitutes pushing big corporate agendas usually call themselves things like Citizens for Humane something-or-other. U would think people would eventually catch on to this. If journalism weren't mostly entertainment nowadays they would.


Tanks! The article I linked was accused of not naming these anti-GW charlatans.

The Orwellian names are the cherry on the cake and really illustrate the ideology followed by these quacks.

In other good news Cow's grazing on grasslands have been found to reduce nitrous oxide emissions.

http://www.telegraph...rous-oxide.html

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 12:37 AM

UN's Climate Bible Gets 21 "F"s on Report Card

BACKGROUND AND INTRO

United Nations countries belong to an organization called the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which publishes a report every six years. Often referred to as the "climate bible" the latest one was released in 2007 and is relied on by governments around the world. Billions of dollars are spent on national and international policies based on its findings. Judges consult it when trying cases. Scholars and journalists cite it thousands of times a year.

The IPCC report contains 44 chapters and is nearly 3,000 pages long. Written by people organized into three teams - Working Group 1, 2 and 3 - it consists of three smaller reports bundled into one.

PEER-REVIEWED LITERATURE CLAIM

The chairman of the IPCC has declared repeatedly that the report is based solely on peer-reviewed literature. (This means research papers that have been submitted to an academic journal, scrutinized by anonymous referees, and frequently altered in order to qualify for publication. Although the peer-review process does not guarantee accuracy, the fact that research findings have undergone this process promotes a feeling of confidence.)

This Citizen Audit focused its attention on the peer-reviewed literature claim. A team of 43 volunteers from 12 countries examined the list of references at the end of each chapter. We sorted these references into two groups - articles published in peer-reviewed academic journals and other references. (Non-peer-reviewed material is often called "grey literature".) Then we calculated the percentage of references that do, indeed, appear to be peer-reviewed.

In elementary schools in the United States, students are assigned grades ranging from an A to an F, based on the mark they've achieved out of 100.....Most parents would be alarmed if their child brought home a report card similar to the one received by the IPCC.

21 out of 44 chapters contain so few peer-reviewed references that the IPCC received an F. The IPCC relied on peer-reviewed literature less than 60 percent of the time in these chapters.


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Posted 21 May 2010 - 11:41 AM

This t-shirt speaks volumes

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:lol: I can't even comment.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 03:51 AM

Legal beagle says: Manmade global warming science doesn’t withstand scrutiny

A cross examination of global warming science conducted by the University of Pennsylvania’s Institute for Law and Economics has concluded that virtually every claim advanced by global warming proponents fail to stand up to scrutiny.

He found that the climate establishment does not follow the scientific method. Instead, it “seems overall to comprise an effort to marshal evidence in favor of a predetermined policy preference.”

The cross-examination, carried out by Jason Scott Johnston, Professor and Director of the Program on Law, Environment and Economy at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, found that “on virtually every major issue in climate change science, the [reports of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] and other summarizing work by leading climate establishment scientists have adopted various rhetorical strategies that seem to systematically conceal or minimize what appear to be fundamental scientific uncertainties or even disagreements.”

Professor Johnson, who expressed surprise that the case for global warming was so weak, systematically examined the claims made in IPCC publications and other similar work by leading climate establishment scientists and compared them with what is found in the peer-edited climate science literature. He found that the climate establishment does not follow the scientific method. Instead, it “seems overall to comprise an effort to marshal evidence in favor of a predetermined policy preference.”

Financial Post
Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Energy Probe the author of The Deniers.

Read more: http://opinion.finan.../#ixzz0qKA3gJCU

The 79-page document, which effectively eviscerates the case for man-made global warming, can be found here:

http://papers.ssrn.c...ract_id=1612851

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 01:36 PM

"Millard Public Schools will stop using a children's book about global warming -- but only until the district can obtain copies with a factual error corrected.

A review committee, convened after parents complained, concluded that author Laurie David's book, "The Down-to-Earth Guide to Global Warming," contained "a major factual error" in a graphic about rising temperatures and carbon dioxide levels.

Mark Feldhausen, associate superintendent for educational services, this week sent a letter to parents who complained, including the wife of U.S. Rep. Lee Terry of Nebraska, outlining the committee's findings.

"Although the authors have pledged to correct the graph in subsequent editions, the committee recommends that this correction be made to all MPS-owned texts before using it with students in the future," Feldhausen wrote."


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It is no surprise that they are trying to indoctrinate our children with the global warming scam through the public school systems. At least the school above noted the error in the book and also offers both sides to the debate.


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Posted 20 June 2010 - 07:25 PM

James Balog: Time-lapse proof of extreme ice loss

(from the renowned Ted Talks series on line)

http://www.ted.com/t...e_ice_loss.html

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 08:38 PM

James Balog: Time-lapse proof of extreme ice loss

(from the renowned Ted Talks series on line)

http://www.ted.com/t...e_ice_loss.html



Climate has to be dealt with in geological time frames. In other words, what we think of as a day is a thousand years in geo time.
I do not know why I am wasting my time on this crap.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 11:17 PM

Legal beagle says: Manmade global warming science doesn’t withstand scrutiny

A cross examination of global warming science conducted by the University of Pennsylvania’s Institute for Law and Economics has concluded that virtually every claim advanced by global warming proponents fail to stand up to scrutiny.

He found that the climate establishment does not follow the scientific method. Instead, it “seems overall to comprise an effort to marshal evidence in favor of a predetermined policy preference.”

The cross-examination, carried out by Jason Scott Johnston, Professor and Director of the Program on Law, Environment and Economy at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, found that “on virtually every major issue in climate change science, the [reports of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] and other summarizing work by leading climate establishment scientists have adopted various rhetorical strategies that seem to systematically conceal or minimize what appear to be fundamental scientific uncertainties or even disagreements.”

Professor Johnson, who expressed surprise that the case for global warming was so weak, systematically examined the claims made in IPCC publications and other similar work by leading climate establishment scientists and compared them with what is found in the peer-edited climate science literature. He found that the climate establishment does not follow the scientific method. Instead, it “seems overall to comprise an effort to marshal evidence in favor of a predetermined policy preference.”

Financial Post
Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Energy Probe the author of The Deniers.

Read more: http://opinion.finan.../#ixzz0qKA3gJCU

The 79-page document, which effectively eviscerates the case for man-made global warming, can be found here:

http://papers.ssrn.c...ract_id=1612851

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I would not expect a law school professor to be an expert on the science of Global Warming or lack thereof. But I would expect him to have strong opinions on all matters political, and to find logical-sounding arguments to attempt to support them.

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 03:55 AM

I would not expect a law school professor to be an expert on the science of Global Warming or lack thereof. But I would expect him to have strong opinions on all matters political, and to find logical-sounding arguments to attempt to support them.


By the nature of your comment, I conclude that you did not read what the professor actually wrote.
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