fxfox Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Funny you mention this Jorma and mes been formulating along these lines. Crazy to think but very plausible I think the US stock market has been deemed a National Security Risk. I have a strong sense that there is an unlimited fund setup that for National Security concerns is hidden from the public. This fund is used by a network of banks covert to absorb/buy Stock index and short volatility at critical Market moments. Doc's analysis is spot on and *if* we do not turn hard to the downside on the avalanche of supply over the next several months time frame then the markets are fixed (hard to believe ) and not sure there is any event that would or could trigger a true Bear. Good points. If there is such a fund or not I don‘t know, but what I‘m 100% sure about: The big CB‘s and other mega financial institutions ( which are combined THE MARKET) have decided in the aftermath of 2008 that something like that should never ever happen again. At any cost. Everything which could bring us near a Lehman type event has to be avoided. There are so many complicated issues, it is impossible to regard them all. Also back in the early 70s the US stock was more or less a domestic stock market. Today it is the playground of GLOBAL available liquidity. So in the 70s there was one tax law which did matter, the US one. Nowadays the market is impacted by dozens of different tax laws. And so on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisFit Kid Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Good points. If there is such a fund or not I don‘t know, but what I‘m 100% sure about: The big CB‘s and other mega financial institutions ( which are combined THE MARKET) have decided in the aftermath of 2008 that something like that should never ever happen again. At any cost. Everything which could bring us near a Lehman type event has to be avoided. There are so many complicated issues, it is impossible to regard them all. Also back in the early 70s the US stock was more or less a domestic stock market. Today it is the playground of GLOBAL available liquidity. So in the 70s there was one tax law which did matter, the US one. Nowadays the market is impacted by dozens of different tax laws. And so on and on. You mention the playground of GLOBAL available liquidity and I think of what has happened to Major sports Leagues/teams, but mostly European Football (soccer) and to another extent, International Football/FIFA/EUFA Big Teams are being bought as "assets" by big money-Wealth Funds/international multi-billionaires who then will/can buy everything related (copy rights, real estate, youth players, etc....) Players are moved around and sold like commodities, at higher and higher prices to those who can/will pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandlestickIT Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 This run over the past week due to index futures margins declining. They needed to use this as a source of liquidity to goose the markets. They achieved their goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 You mention the playground of GLOBAL available liquidity and I think of what has happened to Major sports Leagues/teams, but mostly European Football (soccer) and to another extent, International Football/FIFA/EUFA Big Teams are being bought as "assets" by big money-Wealth Funds/international multi-billionaires who then will/can buy everything related (copy rights, real estate, youth players, etc....) Players are moved around and sold like commodities, at higher and higher prices to those who can/will pay it. Yes correct. Good to see in the english Premier Lesgue and even better at Paris St Germain sponsored by a mega billionaire from Qatar wirh record transfer of Neymar. Also good example is China. They founded a new League a few years ago and since then pay asteonomic saleries for old european middle class players. Thats what the NASL did in the 70s, Cosmos were the exception cause they had at least Pele and Beckenbauer, the other teams were packed with second devision players from Italy, Scotland and whatnot. A few years later the NASL went bust. Thing is: China has now become a „player“ in international football. There was no China in the 70s, wherher in stocks, nor in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero_value Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Good points. If there is such a fund or not I don‘t know, but what I‘m 100% sure about: The big CB‘s and other mega financial institutions ( which are combined THE MARKET) have decided in the aftermath of 2008 that something like that should never ever happen again. At any cost. Everything which could bring us near a Lehman type event has to be avoided. There are so many complicated issues, it is impossible to regard them all. Also back in the early 70s the US stock was more or less a domestic stock market. Today it is the playground of GLOBAL available liquidity. So in the 70s there was one tax law which did matter, the US one. Nowadays the market is impacted by dozens of different tax laws. And so on and on. Fed counterfeiting = Instant wealth out of thin air for some = Productivity theft for the rest = Financial crime of all time = Public hangings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisFit Kid Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Fed counterfeiting = Instant wealth out of thin air for some = Productivity theft for the rest = Financial crime of all time = Public hangings I hope I live long enough to see the end of that equation.... >: someone sure wants 2720 today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Fed counterfeiting = Instant wealth out of thin air for some = Productivity theft for the rest = Financial crime of all time = Public hangingsWill never happen in the US. Remember Hoover sending the mafia in the 30s to kill the union workers. There will never be a strong enough left wing movement in the US. Every time there is a chance true left wingers could really come to power they get destroyed by the propaganda machinery of the ruling elite. To sell leftys to the public as idiots is just part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero_value Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Will never happen in the US. Remember Hoover sending the mafia in the 30s to kill the union workers. There will never be a strong enough left wing movement in the US. Every time there is a chance true left wingers could really come to power they get destroyed by the propaganda machinery of the ruling elite. To sell leftys to the public as idiots is just part of the game. Politics are a distraction the left wing = right wing = any wing. The treasonous any wing politicians are in the instant wealth out of this air diseased camp which has metastasized the entire system. Change will not happen in the traditional sense, not sure we will see it but mes think we are closer than ever in my life time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 We're not going to new highs. The market always bounces off the first foray below the 200 day. And the second. This is how markets top out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I love the market will never go down theories. Reminds me of back in the day when I "fired" Windysrf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 My fellow bears! Do I look worried? I'm not worried about anything. I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Between King, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Gerald Ford there's a speech snippet for every occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I love the market will never go down theories. Reminds me of back in the day when I "fired" Windysrf.Around that time you also fired K-Wave Rider, who was probsbly one of the best traders who have ever appeared at the stool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 My fellow bears! Do I look worried? I'm not worried about anything. I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! Jimmy Carter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero_value Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Doc=Balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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