machinehead Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 machine: Please read the book "Breaking theDemopublican Monopoly" http://www.afr.org/ I've read it. I agree with Nelson Hultberg's analysis ... the 'progressive' changes of 1913 subverted the Republic. But I don't think a third party political campaign will work. It's "their" system ... designed to neuter third parties. Shunting opponents into a futile struggle on 'their' tilted playing field ... systematically marginalized by 'their' media and 'their' exclusionary 'debates' ... suits their purposes just fine. Only economic depression or revolutionary violence will overthrow the ruling Depublicrat regime ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearbones Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Bush came in to office with an imminent bear market and recession. He did what he had to do (tax cuts,war) to guarantee a second term when he will be faced with the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Hungarian Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Like it or not, the popular vote in the presidential election is meaningless as long as we have the electoral college, which should be outlawed. This is a democracy, you win the popular vote, you should be the president. tradermark, The United States is a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 The USA is a republic Electoral college was our forefathers blessing They new the the pitfalls of a king They were not politically correct ! THANK GOODNESS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiding Bear Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 The Fed added $3.25B in repos replacing $2B. Unless they come in again to buy some bonds, the Fed does not appear particulary worried about the last few days market selloff. So if we can stay below 1100 on the SPX, LOB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 The Mad Hungarian same thoughts same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearbones Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 But I don't think a third party political campaign will work. It's "their" system ... designed to neuter third parties. Shunting opponents into a futile struggle on 'their' tilted playing field ... systematically marginalized by 'their' media and 'their' exclusionary 'debates' ... suits their purposes just fine. Only economic depression or revolutionary violence will overthrow the ruling Depublicrat regime ... I agree. It goes deeper than that. Americans feel that they have to vote for one or the other of the major candidiates or they will be "throwing out their vote". I cannot tell you how many times in recent months I have raised the issue of voting for a third candidate and received that reply. It's institutionalized disenfranchisement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Holy sheet ... cash dollah index 86.32 (30-min delay) Will it take out the annual low (around 85.00) before or just after the election? Looks that way .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 machine/bear: It all starts with one step. Yes the economic calamity that awaits could be the catylast for change, but we have to be ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longOnUranus Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Like it or not, the popular vote in the presidential election is meaningless as long as we have the electoral college, which should be outlawed. This is a democracy, you win the popular vote, you should be the president. tradermark, The United States is a constitutional republic, not a democracy. The USA is an amalgam of states, many of which were independent territories (or countries) before there was such a thing as the USA. The USA is exactly what it's name says it is. Pleurality rules - in presidential elections - on a state by state basis. The winner of each states gets the votes in the Electoral College (? do they need a degree). No ammendement is needed; the lawyers will see to it that the constitution is ultimately "correctly" interpretted on an election-by-election basis. Election law is the new big thing in law schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 oil up .41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 C is just a penny away from 52 week low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 oil up .41 Another anti-dollah ... Crude Earl and paper money both burn. But Earl is cheaper on a cost-per-BTU basis ... * lights cigar with hundred dollah bill * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearbones Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 The USA is a republic Electoral college was our forefathers blessing They new the the pitfalls of a king They were not politically correct ! THANK GOODNESS!!! Those were great men. Washington might have been king but, in one of the great acts in human history, left office voluntarily. Prior to that, leaders were replaced by bloodline or violence. Can anyone imagine any of today's crowd of power seekers doing likewise? Give them a crown and they will take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 The USA is a republic Electoral college was our forefathers blessing They new the the pitfalls of a king They were not politically correct ! THANK GOODNESS!!! Those were great men. Washington might have been king but, in one of the great acts in human history, left office voluntarily. Prior to that, leaders were replaced by bloodline or violence. Can anyone imagine any of today's crowd of power seekers doing likewise? Give them a crown and they will take it. George Washington brings tears to my eyes :cry: in a very way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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