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Posted 17 September 2004 - 04:40 PM


1.) 10-YR T-rates have been coming down
2.) Higher short term rates support the $-buck and keep foreign credits
flowing .


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Posted 17 September 2004 - 04:50 PM

This is supposed to be an amazing documentary

The Fence (W-FIVE Presents)
SAT SEPT 18 at 10pm - Alexandre Trudeau's The Fence Airs Saturday, September 18 on CTV -Trudeau tells the intimate tale of two families on the opposing sides of the security barrier.

Toronto, Ontario (September 3, 2004) - "I may love this place for its beauty, for its history, for its power," says Alexandre Trudeau. "But I loathe it for its incessant reminder of the continued failure of the human spirit."

Trudeau recently spent a season working and living with families in the West Bank and has chronicled that experience in his latest documentary The Fence. Written, produced and narrated by Trudeau, The Fence is the intimate tale of two families on opposing sides of the security barrier in the Jenin-Afula area. Today, CTV announced that The Fence will premiere Saturday, September 18 at 10 p.m. ET (check local listings).

As a filmmaker, Trudeau's trademark is first hand coverage in conflict-ridden areas such as Iraq and Liberia. In this one-hour documentary, he takes viewers into the midst of the West Bank where the Israelis have erected a massive fence between themselves and the Palestinians with the hope of eliminating the violence and suicide bombings from the Palestinian side.

"I have been on both sides of that fence," says Trudeau. "I have laughed with the people there and shared their fears and frustrations. They are just people."

Trudeau brings viewers the human face of this conflict and how the people are coping with the enduring hostilities. A complex mix of people and emotions, Trudeau's subjects include the Atars who, because of the fence, are able to momentarily forget that Israel is such a troubled place. Rami, their best employee who has become trapped on the Israeli side of the fence, unable to return home because once he crosses to the other side he will not be permitted to return to work and support his family. Areen, whose hometown of Jenin was once a quiet place and is now a chaotic city made up of closed stores, bad roads, random gunshots and terror.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 05:11 PM

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 05:19 PM

Israel has repeatedly warned that it may sooner or later take direct action to stop an Iranian nuclear bomb "going critical".

As Amos Perlmutter, Michael Handel and Uri Bar-Joseph recount in their book Two Minutes over Baghdad, the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, was once part of a three-man inner circle that kept even the very sympathetic administration of President Ronald Reagan completely in the dark as they planned and carried out the daring 1981 airstrike on Iraq's Osirak nuclear plant.

That exploit had little visible fallout. But a repeat performance against Iran today would be universally perceived as American in spirit, even if exclusively Israeli in execution, and the whole Middle Eastern mess which America came to Iraq to clean up would instantly cross a new threshold in scale, virulence and unpredictability.


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Posted 17 September 2004 - 06:22 PM

Ivan pictures


How come the pics of IVAN aftermath were in the Chinadaily?

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 06:26 PM

More violence and bombing in Iraq
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." --- Thomas Jefferson

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:03 PM

Thinking I'd missed something....I just got off the phone with my MP-we currently have 7 to 10 U.S. Military members some with their families seeking refugee status in Canada. Some came back from Iraq and came here, others were to be deployed there and came here. They are still here after many months going thru Immigration appeals which as I said previously can go on for years. They like others are allowed to work as they go thru the hoops. There has been no agreement signed with the U.S. that would mean their automatic return. Martin could sign such an agreement but I doubt he would, being smart he would bring it before Parliament and I doubt it would get passed. Canada is not anti a just war but is anti folly. Iraq one and Afghanistan had our full participation but Nam and Iraq 2 did not. In reference to Immigration sure marry a Canuck and you are in, Doctors, Engineers, Scientists, Registered Nurses, Entrepreneurs with money all get a free pass. Got a Canadian relative who can sponsor and will be responsible for you again pretty much a free pass. There are over 300 occupations and categories listed that require only being hired and sponsored by a Canadian Company. Having said all that the "refugee " route is the most popular there are apparently about 2 hundred thousand of those claims backlogged now and those folk are living and working here. Those with criminal records or terrorism ties can forget about it, they go right back where they from but that policy only came in after 911. Citizenship can be acquired in 3 years and in some cases within a year.

Tanks B4, that is very informative. ;)

How about if you are married to an RN? :D

Correct me if I am wrong, but your part of Canada appears to have the most moderate weather, which is a plus to me. However, it also seems that housing prices are very high - although I believe they were already high for Canada even before the last few years RE boom. Also correct me if I am wrong there.

I have two sons and they probably will be approaching the draft age just when the draft may get going in earnest - should GWB win. Maybe even if he doesn't too. As much Kerry became well known for his anti-war effort in Vietnam days, his objections to the current situation is less than keen. Looking back to Clinton, we saw that he continued pretty much what was started before him in Iraq - regular bombing attacks on 'radar bases'. Maybe Kerry will continue what was started too, until casualties become too great.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:10 PM

Sox and Yanks in Noo Yawk.

Does it get any more provincial than that in MLB?

I think not.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:28 PM

As you relax tonight, give a thought to the grim plight of Mad Al. He is like a man adrift at sea with no fresh water. Let me explain.

Al's running a $1.3 trillion commodity pool (the custody account). The commodity is U.S. Treasurys. Their prices are being pegged at 1.5% on the short end, and 4.2% on the long (10-year) end. However, there are two problems.

Let's take the less serious problem first. As every commodity pool from the tin cartel to the Intl. Coffee Org. to OPEC has proven, a pool CAN'T survive without enforcing production discipline. Unfortunately, the Treasury is expanding the supply of U.S. debt at about 10% annually. And the Fed has no control over that.

Convincing the Asian members to keep escalating their contributions to the pool, while the U.S. refuses to exert any fiscal discipline, is ultimately a losing proposition. It starts to look self serving.

The more serious problem is that the entire $1.3 trillion custody account serves as reserves for the expansion of foreign (mainly developed Asian) money supplies. So what, you say?

In a world with free movement of goods and capital, we're all competing for the same goods and assets. Growth of the global money supply produces global inflation. Look at the price of oil, for instance.

And as inflation rises, yields on Treasurys should rise also. But Mad Al is trying to peg yields by pooling more and more Treasurys -- which only increases the inflationary pressure.

So Mad Al is like the fellow on the lifeboat, driven nuts by thirst, who starts gulping salt water. No matter how much salt water he swallows, he can never "catch up with" or satiate his thirst. He can only accelerate his doom.

And on that mournful note, I will hoist another beer -- to you, Mad Al! To your magnificent futility!!
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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:42 PM

G will go down in american history as the worst chairman of the Fed ever.

I am in a great mood for some reason (it is rare).

Dead kennedy's M tv get off the year. At my job next.

Fun Fun Fun in the fluffy chair
Flame up the herb
Woof down the beer
I'm your video DJ
I always talk like I'm wigged out on quaaludes
I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I go

My job is to help destroy
What's left of your imagination
By feeding you endless doses
Of sugar-coated mindless garbage

So don't create
Be sedate
Be a vegetable at home
And thwack on that dial
If we have our way even you will believe
This is the future of rock and roll

How far will you go
How low will you stoop
To tranquilize our minds with your sugar-coated swill

You've turned rock and roll rebellion
Into Pat Boone sedation
Making sure nothing's left to the imagination

M.T.V. Get off the
M.T.V. Get off the
M.T.V. Get off the air
Get off the air

See the latest rejects from the muppet show
Wag their tits and their dicks
As they lip-synch on screen
There's something I don't like
About a band who always smiles
Another tax write-off
For some schmuck who doesn't care

M.T.V. Get off the air
And so it was
Our beloved corporate gods
Claimed they created rock video
Allowing it to sink as low in one year
As commercial TV has in 25
'It's the new frontier,' they say
It's wide open, anything can happen
But you've got a lot of nerve
To call yourself a pioneer
When you're too g-d-damn conservative
To take real chances.

Graph-paper brained accountants
Instead of music fans
Call all the shots at giant record companies now

The lowest common denominator rules
Forget honesty
Forget creativity
The dumbest buy the mostest
That's the name of the game

But sales are slumping
And no one will say why
Could it be they put out one too many lousy records!

M.T.V.-Get off the air!
NONE of what I type, should be taken as financial advice.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:44 PM

Both off the Frankenchrist album 1985 Decay music.

If your machine might slip a gear
Push this button to help it clear
Your time card says your name's Joe
But we'll call you 6-3-0

I'm working at my job
I'm so happy
More boring by the day
But they pay me
All that time spent going to school
Just to end up following-rules
Now it's time to take a break
Don't stray too far or you'll be late
Thank you for your service and a long career
Glad you gave us your best years

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NONE of what I type, should be taken as financial advice.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:50 PM

Same album/ Stars and stripes of corruption.

Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night
I couldn't wait
I headed straight for the Capitol Mall
My heart began to pound
Yahoo! It really exists
The American International Pictures logo

I looked up at that Capitol Building
Couldn't help but wonder why
I felt like saying 'Hello, old friend'

Walked up the hill to touch it
Then I unzipped my pants
And pissed on it when nobody was looking

Like a great eternal Klansman
With his two flashing red eyes
Turn around he's always watching
The Washington monument pricks the sky
With flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom

The symbols of our heritage
Lit up proudly in the night
Somehow fits to see the homeless people
Passed out on the lawn

So this is where it happens
The power games and bribes
All lobbying for a piece of ass

Of the stars and stripes of corruption
Makes me feel so ashamed
To be an American
When we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes
Trying to start another Viet Nam
Whilke fiddling while Rome burns at home
The Boss says, 'You're laid off. Blame the Japanese'
'America's back,' alright
At the game it plays the worst
Strip mining the world like a slave plantation

No wonder others hate us
And the Hitlers we handpick
To bleed their people dry
For our evil empire

The drug we're fed
To make us like it
Is God and country with a band

People we know who should know better
Howl, 'America riles. Let's go to war!'
Business scams are what's worth dying for

Are the Soviets our worst enemy
We're destroying ourselves instead
Who cares about our civil rights
As long as I get paid

The blind Me-Generation
Doesn't care if life's a lie

so easily used, so proud to enforce

The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
Tell me who's the real patriots
The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags
Or the people with the guts to work
For some real change
Rednecks and bombs don't make us strong
We loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves
Our real test of strength is caring
Not the toys of war we sell the world
Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms
Old glory for a blanket
As you suck on your thumbs

Real freedom scares you
'Cos it means responsibility

So you chicken out and threaten me

Saying, 'Love it or leave it'
I'll get beat up if I criticize it
You say you'll fight to the death
To save your useless flag

If you want a banana republic that bad
Why don't you go move to one
But what can just one of us do
Against all that money and power
Trying to crush us into roaches

We don't destroy society in a day
Until we change ourselves first
From the inside out

We can start by not lying so much
And treating other people like dirt
It's easy not to base our lives
On how much we can scam

And you know
It feels good to lift that monkey off our backs

I'm thankful I live in a place
Where I can say the things I do
Without being taken out and shot
So I'm on guard against the goons
Trying to take my rights away
We've got to rise above the need for cops and laws

Let kids learn communication
Instead of schools pushing competition
How about more art and theater instead of sports

People will always do drugs
Let's legalize them
Crime drops when the mob can't price them
Budget's in the red
Let's tax religion

No one will do it for us
We'll just have to fix ourselves
Honesty ain't all that hard
Just put Rambo back inside your pants
Causing trouble for the system is much more fun

Thank you for the toilet paper
But your flag is meaningless to me
Look around, we're all people
Who needs countries anyway

Our land, I love it too
I think I love it more than you
I care enough to fight

The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
If we don't try
If we just lie
If we can't find
A way to do it better than this
Who will
NONE of what I type, should be taken as financial advice.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest that you've sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, alone
Dragged down by the stone.


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Posted 17 September 2004 - 08:11 PM

This is way off-topic.
Does anyone have any experience with Acura cars? I'm looking for a new car and have my eye on the Acura TSX. TIA

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 08:22 PM

So are we going to start a thread on LOB on escape destinations? I will, if there are no takers, but I haven't a clue how to move the posts. anybody?


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Posted 17 September 2004 - 08:43 PM

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