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Steve Forbes on CNBS just said "we are seeing mild inflation hitting the market and the FED is behind the curve. Rather than raising rates - the FED should drain money supply."

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fantastic - what a fantastic capper to 25 years of neoliberalism - let the ill-gotten oligarchs live out their days tax-free, and then pass their pile to thier kids tax free, all the while letting the serfs shoulder the burden in exchange for the privilege of riding the rest of the bear market to non-retirement. Excellent.

Exactly!

 

But hey, what could go wrong?

 

:P

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FEDEX is called higher this morning on raised guidance. It seems that they have been able to pass on the higher cost of fuel to their customers in the form of fuel surcharges.

 

However there is no inflation.

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Looks like Greenspin's patch is still soft: WalMart says Aug same store sales up only 0-2% vs their (previously reduced) est of 2-4%. Haven't they been saying weekly sales were "on plan"? I guess their plan included a late Aug surge that didn't happen.

Up 0% to 2%???

 

What is up about 0%?

 

This guidance range is going to cause an earthquake. WMT is trending into negative growth and the implications will send shock waves through the market.

 

They are acknowledging that zero-growth is in their guidance range...incredible!

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Pretty busy economic calendar this week.

 

Existing Home Sales  Aug 24 

Durable Orders  Aug 25 

New Home Sales  Aug 25 

Initial Claims  Aug 26 

Help-Wanted Index  Aug 26 

GDP-Prel.  Aug 27 

Chain Deflator-Prel.  Aug 27 

Mich Sentiment-Rev.  Aug 27 

Personal Income  Aug 30 

Personal Spending  Aug 30 

 

I've got my eye on the help wanted index as I think that one is the least subject to Gubmint manipulation. All the anecdotes from my neck of the woods are consistent with job loss and not stabilization let alone creation.

 

Of course, the GDP is going to be a pretty interesting number but it's important to remember that 3Q 03 was revised downward a full 100 basis points (on a Friday afternoon, on page A10).

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Looks like Greenspin's patch is still soft: WalMart says Aug same store sales up only 0-2% vs their (previously reduced) est of 2-4%.  Haven't they been saying weekly sales were "on plan"?  I guess their plan included a late Aug surge that didn't happen.

Up 0% to 2%???

 

What is up about 0%?

 

This guidance range is going to cause an earthquake. WMT is trending into negative growth and the implications will send shock waves through the market.

 

They are acknowledging that zero-growth is in their guidance range...incredible!

No, no, no, no, no.

 

This can't be happening.

 

The NYT just came out with an article that higher oil prices were bullish for the economy.

 

Several economists said so.

 

The consumer is "resilient" and I expect, given their clientele, WMT sales to be immune from higher fuel prices.

 

:P

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fantastic - what a fantastic capper to 25 years of neoliberalism - let the ill-gotten oligarchs live out their days tax-free, and then pass their pile to thier kids tax free, all the while letting the serfs shoulder the burden in exchange for the privilege of riding the rest of the bear market to non-retirement. Excellent.

Exactly!

 

But hey, what could go wrong?

 

:P

What could go wrong already has for the last couple of decades. We have exported our jobs and there are fewer and fewer worker bees to feed the system from the bottom. When the construction / real estate boom dies, that will be painfully obvious.

 

Why would you buy a new car today if you know the incentives are only going to get bigger tommorrow? I think that's what Detroit is facing right now. Too many people bit when incentives were half of what they are and now with the new prices continuing to fall they are severely upside down in their autos. This doesn't make them happy when they see prices for 2005 models below what they paid for their 2003 that they still owe on for another 4 years.

 

A different twist on Plunger's tire theory. People may be forced to keep their cars longer if they can't trade out of them (upside down) or simply become reluctant to buy if they think prices will keep falling. This could actually shift tire demand from the manufacturers to the consumers who might have simply traded out of the old tires into a shiny new set on a new car. Tire demand might fall but maybe not as fast as one might think.

 

I'm beginning to wonder which is worse, highly protectionist tarrifs or "free trade"? When oil is hitting $200 a barrel shipping the same stuff all the world makes back and forth across the planet isn't going to make much sense. With tarrifs we kept the jobs on shore but lost a lot of the export markets and subsequently some of the jobs. Now we lose most of the jobs and the export markets.

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I'm looking forward to the next CPI which will read slightly differently than all the prior ones....

 

Lumber price goes through the roof

Spot price at record high: Hurricane Charley and hot U.S. housing market cited

 

John Greenwood

Financial Post

Friday, August 20, 2004

 

VANCOUVER - Lumber prices continued their meteoric rise this week and are expected to break through a record as Florida home owners prepare to rebuild after the devastating impact of Hurricane Charley.

 

On the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, September lumber futures delivery were yesterday sitting at US$442 for 1,000 feet of two-by-fours, the highest in 10 years.

 

The next one will read "excluding the volatile food, energy and lumber components"

 

:D

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Bloomberg faithfully retails the latest Matrix spin.

 

Seems Friday's U.S. GDP report is expected to be a little soft ... maybe only 2.7%.

 

But that's positive for the doolar because [drum roll] ... we're growing faster than Europe, whose economy only expanded at a 2.0% annual rate in the last quarter!

 

And in the wacky world of money mismanagers, beating your benchmark is all that counts!

 

The almighty dollah

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Yobob:

 

Every one of those existing autos you mentioned were always going to be in the market and eventually in need of tires (it's already priced in the stocks), regardless of retention of ownership or change of ownership. You might additionally consider that the number of cars that might be taken off the road for up to a two or three months through reposession - or through the slowing in Used Car Sales (a trend) that results in zero miles being logged as they sit on the lot awaiting sale. Additionally, you may hear of two-car families choosing to use the gas hog (which has the most expensive tires) far less than they had previously.

 

Viewing the trend toward reduced new car production, in concert with these other trends, I don't see ANY scenario under which tire manufacturers will become more profitable than their estimates.

 

Of course I could be wrong...I just can't make a case for it.

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Bloomberg faithfully retails the latest Matrix spin.

 

Seems Friday's U.S. GDP report is expected to be a little soft ... maybe only 2.7%.

 

But that's positive for the doolar because [drum roll] ... we're growing faster than Europe, whose economy only expanded at a 2.0% annual rate in the last quarter!

 

And in the wacky world of money mismanagers, beating your benchmark is all that counts!

 

The almighty dollah

Two things.

 

First, the Eu and the US use decidedly different measures of GDP output. Unless I'm mistaken, the Eurozone doesn't use hedonics and other crap to slap on an average of 1%-2% like we do.

 

Second, In the linked article, I have a candidate for your "stupid economic quote" assemblage.

 

Crude oil's retreat from a record on Friday may also have spurred demand for the dollar, said Adam Cole, a currency strategist at RBC Capital Markets in London.

 

Uhhhh. I'm gonna need that one explained.

 

Just last week some currency idiot was explaining the dollars strength on the basis of the fact that oil is priced and paid for with dolors, which creates higher dolor demand as the price of oil goes up.

 

Neither really makes sense to me as the final disposition of those petrodolors would seem to be at the discretion of the receivers. Don't like dolors? Just round trip them into Euros or gold or sour pickles the minute you get them.

 

Am I missing something?

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