brian4 Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Every Indicie closed Friday at or near strong resistance. Only 10 stocks of the Dow 30 finished up. The McOsi close on Friday registered the highest overbought reading in more than 20 years. The Bulls chatter a lot about the the p/c ratio being 1.05 but in the big drop it was consistently higher than it is now and the Equity only p/c ratio is a very benign .70. As I've said for a week a close ove 1127 is very Bullish but a turndown from here is very Bearish and the evidence points down not up. We will know shortly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howl Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 The US media went along with the Shrubco war promo,fully and completely. As a result,thousands are now dead,because of this war.i The US media failed in it's responsibilty to the American people,it also failed in it's responsibility to humanity. It is a disgrace. The US media has done a huge U Turn in recent months. They are reporting the story, and US public opinion is turning against the war, and against the Bush administration. Bush's poll numbers would not have dropped from 90% approval into the 40's were it not for the media pushing them. My guess is that the media aren't just dropping Bush because the media have to remain credible. It is more than that. The Boyz have made the decision that Bush must not be reelected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howl Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Regarding investor sentiment, could it be that the sheeple are right again? They were right last year when they were recordly bullish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threadbare Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Beardrech, I cringe at the very sound of Leo Strauss's name. The man, like James Jesus Angletonof the CIA, was mired in the concept that "everything in politics is deception". He ignored the fact that sometimes things are just as they seem, and that there is actually some good in humanity. His search for a hidden meaning, and the hidden, in general, translated directly into the WMD fiasco in the Middle EAst. He had the bleakest and most blinkered view of humanity--just what you want in a professor at a prestigious university. What on earth was it about prewar Germany that caused such an atrocious world view, producing men like Hitler and Strauss? Strauss's doctrines are replete with ideas of superiority that reject any moral boundaries. Sickening stuff. Everyone should familiarize themselves with his work, because it has formed the ideologies of many in the current administration. What we revile, they aspire to. Rule One: Deception "It's hardly surprising then why Strauss is so popular in an administration obsessed with secrecy, especially when it comes to matters of foreign policy. Not only did Strauss have few qualms about using deception in politics, he saw it as a necessity. While professing deep respect for American democracy, Strauss believed that societies should be hierarchical ? divided between an elite who should lead, and the masses who should follow. But unlike fellow elitists like Plato, he was less concerned with the moral character of these leaders. According to Shadia Drury, who teaches politics at the University of Calgary, Strauss believed that "those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right ? the right of the superior to rule over the inferior." http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15935 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Some stories in the media today about the unprecedented volume of untruthful attack ads by the addministrations re-election campaign. These are vicious, vindictive people who will stop at nothing. I think we have reason to be afraid. It is definitely a time where a hero, or heroes are needed. I think of guys like Powell and McCain, and wonder if they will be able to step forward, and speak out against what is going on. To my mind, Powell is the only one in the administration with the gravitas, and the potential to do it. But will he speak out? He has made a few noises lately, buy not enough. In the Senate, McCain of course, and perhaps John Warner. Lugar may have gotten the ball rolling, but, while a heavyweight, he does not have the stature of McCain or Warner. If Warner breaks, that should be enough to bring down this government. If only we had a parliamentary system.... The only member of the gooberment that i see speaking the truth is RON PAUL. Suprised he isn't in a straightjacket by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian4 Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Fair Value numbers are out-spoo's-1120.34, NazDuck-1467.02 both currently trading about 2 points above fair value.y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbane Bear Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Have we become the new "Krazies" in todays society,whilst we have spent the weekend talking about the EOTWAWKI and how the planet is going to hell in a hand basket,what has everyone else been doing? http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/e...movies_eo/14216 Most people dont give a root about what we think or know,most people are totally pig ignorant about any of the stuff we discuss,most people are more interested in what sort of wine should they take to the BBQ. Not one person I spoke to over the weekend mentioned anything even remotely important,not one...all frivilous shit,all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Have we become the new "Krazies" in todays society,whilst we have spent the weekend talking about the EOTWAWKI and how the planet is going to hell in a hand basket,what has everyone else been doing? http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/e...movies_eo/14216 Most people dont give a root about what we think or know,most people are totally pig ignorant about any of the stuff we discuss,most people are more interested in what sort of wine should they take to the BBQ. Not one person I spoke to over the weekend mentioned anything even remotely important,not one...all frivilous shit,all the time. How is that for effective brainwashing???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian4 Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 WHT just announced they will reject the offer from CDE and proceed with the IAM Gold takeover. Canadian Oil stocks went thru the roof today, Encana, Canadian natural Resources and Talisman all up big with the others following. Briz-that is why they are called Sheeple. I think the people here are well informed and care about their future and the future of this Globe we all live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield 8 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Media - CSpan and PBS have been on target all along. This weekend CSpan aired two full days of the Libertarian Party convention, and interviewed Socialist, Libertarian and Constitutional Party candidates this morning. (Sadly only one sounded remotely viable or realistic, but it was good to hear original world views) Now with Bill Moyers (PBS weekly investigative journalism) is committed to preservation of democracy and skewers the White House in every program. Charlie Rose often sounds muzzled by the sponsorship of Bloomberg, but his guests have been outspoken opponents of the war and the administration. No, these programs are not high up in the ratings, but there are voices that have been consistent since the 2000 election- and the voices are getting louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbane Bear Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I wonder what sort of spin they can put on this.... http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;j...storyID=5301407 Maybe let the sheeple pay high gasoline for an extended period, then open the Iraqi pipelines to 1. bring down oil prices and 2. use the proceeds to pay for the war. These guys could spin that into a win/win situation without too many problems. Most people have no tolerance for any kind of pain,so if the end justifies the means so be it...You either want cheap oil or you dont? Its a ruthless world out there..OPEC are probably playing right into Bush and co.s hands ...suckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The End Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Below 1090 I will add to shorts above 1127 I am Long. I hope all enjoyed the weak-end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depends Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 So whats with all the naval exercises? "in times of tight budgets and high fuel prices, it seems a bit odd that so many countries are putting to sea for the next month" Check out the section on "snowball" http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm I'm thinking (speculating) in a different direction - like arctic ice sheet movement - not mentioned in the article - sea level rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 The US media went along with the Shrubco war promo,fully and completely. As a result,thousands are now dead,because of this war.i The US media failed in it's responsibilty to the American people,it also failed in it's responsibility to humanity. It is a disgrace. The US media has done a huge U Turn in recent months. They are reporting the story, and US public opinion is turning against the war, and against the Bush administration. Bush's poll numbers would not have dropped from 90% approval into the 40's were it not for the media pushing them. My guess is that the media aren't just dropping Bush because the media have to remain credible. It is more than that. The Boyz have made the decision that Bush must not be reelected. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardrech Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Beardrech, I cringe at the very sound of Leo Strauss's name. The man, like James Jesus Angletonof the CIA, was mired in the concept that "everything in politics is deception". He ignored the fact that sometimes things are just as they seem, and that there is actually some good in humanity. His search for a hidden meaning, and the hidden, in general, translated directly into the WMD fiasco in the Middle EAst. He had the bleakest and most blinkered view of humanity--just what you want in a professor at a prestigious university. What on earth was it about prewar Germany that caused such an atrocious world view, producing men like Hitler and Strauss? Strauss's doctrines are replete with ideas of superiority that reject any moral boundaries. Sickening stuff. Everyone should familiarize themselves with his work, because it has formed the ideologies of many in the current administration. What we revile, they aspire to. Rule One: Deception "It's hardly surprising then why Strauss is so popular in an administration obsessed with secrecy, especially when it comes to matters of foreign policy. Not only did Strauss have few qualms about using deception in politics, he saw it as a necessity. While professing deep respect for American democracy, Strauss believed that societies should be hierarchical ? divided between an elite who should lead, and the masses who should follow. But unlike fellow elitists like Plato, he was less concerned with the moral character of these leaders. According to Shadia Drury, who teaches politics at the University of Calgary, Strauss believed that "those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right ? the right of the superior to rule over the inferior." http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15935 Threadbare I respect your moral indignation very much; you have the political passion that energises and sustains nation states;especially in dark times-- However,difficult as it is please try to see situation as Strauss saw it--A student of Heidigger,perhaps one of the three greatest minds in 20th century philosophy ---he saw him becoming theRector of Freiberg and keeping his Jewish mentor,Husserl from using the library during the last year of his life; and the momentary conversion leading Heidigger into articulating Hitlerian swill before he realised too late what he was in for-- He saw an entire nation formerly the richest in European intellectual and scientific dynamism become his personal enemy and would be exterminator--loud protestations of liberal freedom by people who became bestialised--and whose political ethic can only be nominalized as an advanced form of Brutalitarianism-- As a jew he saw the depletion of Christian morality rapidly depleted under the bombaardment of the historicists whose replacing ideology turned our to be a boxcar loaded with murderous horseshit-- And when the horstwessel song made the Nazi hit parade he knew it was time to hightail it out of town- He has a deadly quarrel not with idealism and individualism as you feel it but as he perceived it becoming in the twentieth century---enunciated and bellowed but built on foundation of sand Perhaps he did become a paranoidal maniac --although i didn't think so, but even if he did his deep going suspicion of mankind was warranted-- One final note: one of his students Jerome Boime wrote an essay in which he communicated the notion of the political fraternity--in it he came to the conclusion tha MORAL communities are by definition fighting and ultimately warring communities---Why ? Because their repective standards are ,in each others eyes,LOATHSOME ANDworthy of being annihilated and eventually weakened governments are taken over by murderous zealots who have to be taken out--- Finally I do not disagree with a single thing you've quoted or said-- beardrech :cry: :cry: :cry: p.s wonmog; would you believe that i heard Studs Turkle(your avatar) on the radio almost 60 years ago when he ran a program called Wax museum---he played Operas-my dad listening-on Sunday night and interpreted them as if he were a Chivago gangster with critical insight--I wonder if there are any tapes remaining??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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