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#106 BumRush

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:01 AM

So many good posts this AM on target, (esp xenophobia and urban/rural divide)

Live in urban Ohio, busy yesterday as a Dem counter- challenger -counter in that I was trained to leave voters alone, focus solely on witnessing of challenges.

At polls from start- thing most interesting to me is that after filling out (punch-card) ballots, voters almost hesitated to give them up to be put in the box, wanting perhaps to carry them atop the mountain, to be sure it (and their voice) was safe.

Most understood the beauty of voting and theoretical importance of their vote.

We had 70% turnout (more than doubled re: 2000). Needless to say, a blue dot on the map.

Big deal about provisional voting is that about 5% of votes in my polling place were provisional (mostly within-precinct moves). Also, some precincts had changed between PRIMARIES and ELECTION. BTW, most people automatically pull out drivers licenses (not necessary) to show their names, incl. those who voted provisional.

PS Repub counterpart managed to annoy the presiding judge and pollworkers to the extent that at least one call was made to Board of Elections and this person was threatened with expulsion. More interesting, this person (and perhaps, challengers in all counties) came w/detailed list of every registered voter in precinct, and left w/data denoting every person who voted and the number of ballot he/she cast. I presume this was used at HQ for early detailing of who showed up and expected breakdown of vote.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:02 AM

so the $USD went from 85.6 to 84.8

and CEF is down a penny. Hummmmm....

CEF is a double bet, metals and currency exchange. Puzzles me why it's down -- except that I own a chunk, so I guess the Drano Kiss of Death is still operative.
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#108 GregFokker

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:04 AM

fornicate it. I am sick of letting these bastards bring me down. I will just do my own thing, hang out with my family ( which I am way too lucky to have) drink some good wine, and try to have a few laughs. AS far as the election, hell they were one in the same, so folks don;t let the shrub bring you down.

Solid, Soup. Gonna take your advice. Thanks, man.

...A declining spenglerian carnival of Colossaalism united with Inflation where the numbers one through 10 are forever banished as worthless arithmetical detritus from a bygone age... - Beardrech

Naturally we believe the govt numbers... and Boobus Americanus sleepwalks off the edge of the energy-crisis cliff clutching his shares of "Crisco", Yoohoo and GooGah munching on his Yum Yums and Ho Hos. Future historians will have a hell of a time figuring out what the hell Americanus neanderthalus was thinking and exactly what brought on his sudden demise... - Henny Penny

Well, good night everyone. I gotta go lube up for tomorrow's regular end-of-week Gold Slapdown and Stock Index Bear Punishment Rally Weekend Greenprint. ...Probably another Shock-and-Awe Gap-Up-Open and Wire-to-Wire Meltup Runaway Bull Charge Mo-Mo Spike to Fresh New All-Time Lifetime Highs, culminating in a 4:15 yelping scalded dog runoff with panic short-covering and legal not-held bad double fills due to fast market conditions, plus quote system freeze-ups and trading platform lock-outs along the way. *yawn* typical gov't Friday. - Shorty


#109 Bearbones

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:05 AM

Factory orders disappoint. Expected +.4 got -.4. Prior month revised down -.3 from -.1.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:06 AM

Heard on the radio that students at USF had to vote on only 3 machines and there was a 4 hour wait with many leaving without voting.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:07 AM

Gap being probed now.

If today turns into a key reversal, it will really blow some minds. :mellow:
"GOLD -- it's not just for misers anymore."

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#112 brian4

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:10 AM

stopped at the open reshorted from 1150 stop 1148 ;)

#113 GregFokker

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:11 AM

so the $USD went from 85.6 to 84.8

and CEF is down a penny.  Hummmmm....

CEF is a double bet, metals and currency exchange. Puzzles me why it's down -- except that I own a chunk, so I guess the Drano Kiss of Death is still operative.

Because CAD is up. CEF trades based on POG:CAD.

...A declining spenglerian carnival of Colossaalism united with Inflation where the numbers one through 10 are forever banished as worthless arithmetical detritus from a bygone age... - Beardrech

Naturally we believe the govt numbers... and Boobus Americanus sleepwalks off the edge of the energy-crisis cliff clutching his shares of "Crisco", Yoohoo and GooGah munching on his Yum Yums and Ho Hos. Future historians will have a hell of a time figuring out what the hell Americanus neanderthalus was thinking and exactly what brought on his sudden demise... - Henny Penny

Well, good night everyone. I gotta go lube up for tomorrow's regular end-of-week Gold Slapdown and Stock Index Bear Punishment Rally Weekend Greenprint. ...Probably another Shock-and-Awe Gap-Up-Open and Wire-to-Wire Meltup Runaway Bull Charge Mo-Mo Spike to Fresh New All-Time Lifetime Highs, culminating in a 4:15 yelping scalded dog runoff with panic short-covering and legal not-held bad double fills due to fast market conditions, plus quote system freeze-ups and trading platform lock-outs along the way. *yawn* typical gov't Friday. - Shorty


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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:16 AM

EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF THE MATRIX

Massive reversal in the offing.

Oil to $60...Gold to $500

Death to the Dollar.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:17 AM

Gap being probed now.

No porn references!

#116 DrStool

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:18 AM

I really want to get out, but my wife refuses to spend the winter back in Canada. :lol: 

For those of you in foreign outposts like Canada, New York, and California, in order to understand this country, you need to take a ride on the back roads of central and north Florida, or Indiana, or Kansas.  There's an ocean of inbred stupidity and xenophobia out there. The 11 states voting to outlaw gay marriage is one thing, but they also voted to deny legal recognition to OPPOSITE SEX civil unions.  The US is a nation of cave dwelling religious zealots and mystics.  Clearly the theory of evolution is wrong. This proves it.

OK Doc :blink: :blink:

I think what youv'e said is endemic of a larger problem and a larger divide between rural american and the metropolitan metrosexual, heres a response from dozer last night concerning why high density areas lean left and rural areas more to the right....

The much-talked about "divide" IS very much an urban / rural chasm.

Rural society has been decimated by the policies and laws of (mainly dem)
urbanites; with the city crowds able to outvote the sparse out-areas every
single time. This creates the dem/rep = urban/rural split. The feeling around
here is that urban folks couldn't care less about rural people, or the damage
done. It's been going on so long now, there's a pretty deep anger at city folk
built up.

Heck, even here on the normally-respectful stool, I saw a post like "don't
worry
about a few drunks from Hicksville". "Hicksville"....as if rural folks weren't
even worth considering, not even of the same genetic stock with the same IQ,
perceptivity, etc. as urbans.

Great way to make friends and influence voters, eh?

That's the divide in this country. It's real plain on the county maps...was
very
evident in 2000 too. The media, for their own reasons, always hold up the
"bible
thumper" aspect as the reason for the divide; but that's really only a small
part of it...a result more than a cause. A bigger part is land and property
rights infringements...and now threatening such life-basic things like water
rights. Lots of other issues....infringement of guaranteed liberties...firearms
of course...destruction of resource jobs, "free" trade-agreements decimating
rural manufacturing while paper-pusher city gigs skyrocket and pay 100k/yr
w/bloated pensions/bennies, etc., etc..

Run the demographics for 'liberal' and 'conservative' against a county
map....it'll correlate almost perfectly with urban / rural. I've met very few
in
this area who actually lapprove of the war....they're just deathly afraid of
even deeper destruction of their livelihoods and communities if they ever voted
dem.

Heck Lucid, they're just as much in fear for their future as we here are. Every
bit so. But as long as urban dems paint them as retarded religious-freak
monsters, and carry that subconcious attitude, I can't see how this society
will
ever heal. There's got to be -mutual- respect to breach that divide.

Having grown up in hicksville usa, I don't understand a word he's talking about. IMHO, it's all about taxes and religion. Paying an extra $100 in taxes a year is a big deal to them. And, there are more deeply religious folk in rural areas as opposed to metro areas. And they're afraid of gay marriage.

:unsure:

I agree, Bearhugs.

The trailer park people aren't moved by arcane political issues. To them it's about guns, abortion, Religion, taxes, gays, immigrants, and blacks.

Property rights is an issue only to those with substantial property, which is a very small group.

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#117 Drano

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:18 AM

so the $USD went from 85.6 to 84.8

and CEF is down a penny.   Hummmmm....

CEF is a double bet, metals and currency exchange. Puzzles me why it's down -- except that I own a chunk, so I guess the Drano Kiss of Death is still operative.

Because CAD is up. CEF trades based on POG:CAD.

Oh. :o Arrgh.

On the other hand I'm looking at it as a long-term hold.
Of course I'm caustic!

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:19 AM

YELL

#119 Bearbones

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:20 AM

[quote name='Drano' date='Nov 3 2004, 03:02 PM'] and CEF is down a penny. Hummmmm.... [/QUOTE]
CEF is a double bet, metals and currency exchange. Puzzles me why it's down -- except that I own a chunk, so I guess the Drano Kiss of Death is still operative. [/quote]
CEF continues to trade at a large premium to its asset value. Here is the premium history from cefa.com

Current (as of 11/2/2004): 9.28%
YTD Min: 11.13%
YTD Max: 14.94%
YTD Avg: 13.26%
5-yr Avg: 4.74%
10-yr Avg: 1.85%

I keep thinking that alternatives will become available (gold ETF) and shrink the discount.

#120 lucid and confused

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 11:20 AM

Looking like a pretty large loss for the alternative energy, stem cell related areas

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