agent.5 Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 "The CPI is correct in measuring consumer prices," said Miller Tabak bond market strategist Tony Crescenzi. "But it's not correct in measuring the cost of living." To make a statement like that, you have to be an idiot. There's no other plausible explanation. After all, oral sex is not "sexual relationship." So why do anyone think that "consumer" price index has anything to do with the consumption of J6P? After all, why should the multi-millionaries CEO, Sports Stars, and Wall Street Crooks care about the insignificant cost of gas and education, when Arnold, for example, is paying $400 for a hair cut and $2000 for a box of Cuban cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerMarket Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Let's see...all fifty states are going to be filing law suits against as many as 40% of the mutual funds in existence today...Greenspan, Cutler and Donaldson are hunkered down in emergency sessions to sort this mess out and come up with a plan to stick save the entire global economy...by Friday. "Amnesty...that's it Amnesty! We'll just tell all of them to come forward with their admissions of wrong doing by no later than Friday, and in return for their honesty, we'll let them off scott free with no ramifications!" The Mother Of All Stick Saves! Plunger amnesty is fine this time, in the future we need to grant them immunity in advance and avoid these unfortunate situations. It looks like US special agents won't be granted this courtesy though: 'Shoot-to-kill' demand by US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarBu Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Let's see...all fifty states are going to be filing law suits against as many as 40% of the mutual funds in existence today...Greenspan, Cutler and Donaldson are hunkered down in emergency sessions to sort this mess out and come up with a plan to stick save the entire global economy...by Friday. "Amnesty...that's it Amnesty! We'll just tell all of them to come forward with their admissions of wrong doing by no later than Friday, and in return for their honesty, we'll let them off scott free with no ramifications!" The Mother Of All Stick Saves! Plunger well, premature to say.. if this adminstration does allow this SCANDAL easy going away, this is the end of democratic election system, voters eat shit at their own will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 B4, what are these trading rooms you speak of? Are they supplied by broking houses for the use of their clients? Why do you prefer to use a trading room rather than work from home? Sorry re the 3rd degree, just curious :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Let's see...all fifty states are going to be filing law suits against as many as 40% of the mutual funds in existence today...Greenspan, Cutler and Donaldson are hunkered down in emergency sessions to sort this mess out and come up with a plan to stick save the entire global economy...by Friday. "Amnesty...that's it Amnesty! We'll just tell all of them to come forward with their admissions of wrong doing by no later than Friday, and in return for their honesty, we'll let them off scott free with no ramifications!" The Mother Of All Stick Saves! Plunger amnesty is fine this time, in the future we need to grant them immunity in advance and avoid these unfortunate situations. It looks like US special agents won't be granted this courtesy though: 'Shoot-to-kill' demand by US "Meanwhile, negotiations are continuing between police and demonstrators about the route of the march. Representatives of the Stop the War Coalition will meet police at Scotland Yard tomorrow to discuss whether protesters will be able to march through Parliament Square and Whitheall." Perhaps they'll be allowed to march through a yard...in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 I really wouldn't pay much attention to the Fumble Manager Scandals. If they were really a big deal, we would have had a 2 billion share down day by now, and Mo-Mo Punk stocks like KLIC and Aligent would be getting smoked, not HeatMapped to new highs....... I absolutely, totally, unequivocally disagree. Scandals, especially big complex scandals like this one, take a long long time to take hold. Scandals like this don't just blow up. They fester and grow and spread, in a massive virulent infection. The part of the scandal that the public sees, is only the skin. But it's representative of the festering internal rot within the foundation and structural systems which will ultimately cause the system to crash. It starts with just a little seepage and spreads almost imperceptibly at first. There's no way out of this, other than time. This thinng is going down, and it's going down big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growler Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Remember folks...govt can't come down too hard on the Wall St. boys as they need someone to execute all of their orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchaikofsky Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Stephen Roach The elephant that had been in the conference room the whole time finally stomped out into the open. There was widespread fear that many of the most important icons of the American system were at risk of crumbling in this post-bubble climate of vindictiveness. It wasn?t just the Wall Street scandals. It was also the Enron-led accounting scandals and the damaged credibility of the New York Stock Exchange. The litany of a seemingly open-ended crisis in corporate governance and the political backlash it has spawned deeply troubled these investors. So, too, did America?s mis-adventures in Iraq, the latent fear of another terrorist attack, and the ominous rumblings of protectionism -- especially America?s politically-inspired imposition of steel tariffs and the more recent outbreak of China bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 My WAG is Joe and Jane Sixpack won't look beyond those tax rebate checks they were already bought off with, to the price they are paying, and will pay, for those checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian4 Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Aussie Bear-It is a internet virtual trading room where futures traders pay for the ambience of trading together and exchanging information as we trade. The same as Doc's is for stocks-how is the Aussie market-the chart looks awful??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Donaldson fails fund investors again SEC gives Putnam 'slap on wrist' in dig at Spitzer http://aolpf5.marketwatch.com/news/story.a...7D&siteid=aolpf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Feed Bomb Hits Market Late Jump Doesn't Impress Your Anals Fishmarket Wrap is loaded. Take a subscribatory and download RIGHT NOW! 15 Day Intro Subscribatory. Just $2.99! Get In RIGHT NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ags Nightmare Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 With the Speculative Globe and its attendant trillions of Derivative exposure currently on the precipice..... There is NO WAY that Al Green & Co. will allow the mutual fund investigations to continue. Spitzer will be eliminated somehow. Killed, bribed, bought off, transferred, or whatever..... I really wouldn't pay much attention to the Fumble Manager Scandals. If they were really a big deal, we would have had a 2 billion share down day by now, and Mo-Mo Punk stocks like KLIC and Aligent would be getting smoked, not HeatMapped to new highs....... Price and volume tell everything. I agree. Mainly because of nine words...."Mr. Lay, Your Tee Time is at 7:30 am" It would be something if Spritzer did in fact cause a panic in his efforts to protect the small investor but generally I think it's political noise. One man is not going to stop this beast. My biggest beef is where are these guys before. I remeber EMC closing at 80 and then 100 shares would cross at 5:30 and it would end up at 83....Also, where are they now when crap is going on thats just as bad and it's right in front of them, the price target games and ridiculous spamming.....This guy's policing stuff that happened already and the same games are being played right under his nose. And what exactly would the system "look like if it's reformed ?" You can't make Ron Jeremy look like Brad Pitt. The markets are always going to be corrupt somewhere. Imo this market will fall on its own weight eventually because it's a still is a bubble and is to wired and complex for all the pieces to move in unision without something eventually short circuiting. It's become too big to "succeed". I doubt the mutual fund wrist slapping will be the reason. Maybe it will be Nick Leeson type of event. Who knows but the wilderbeasts are still runnining packs even as all the pit bosses are getting caught skimming. FWIW, Agilent is up on earnings.....There was not one but "four" releases. Each one different and with it's own special meaning. I read the first one and couldn't figure out what the number was so I said F it. Ag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 The only thing that happened today with the massive 17 billion feed is that the market was kept from falling into the abyss. What a joke! Al is running scared. Scared people make bad decisions that come back and haunt them. Give the market time it will collapse in its own puke when the real selling begins. Until then got to be nimble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depends Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 This chart is working down. As for tomorrow? I have no idea. Covered some nice short sliders today. Just the ones that hit support lines. Stopped out of some miners early today but reloaded already. Had a small up day. 5 dongs / 5 metals / 4 shorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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