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Sherlock: I have never met E. Edwards but I have met J. Edwards twice in small group meetings. He was awesome. Where has he been on the campaign trail? They need to get him out front.

John Edwards has a charisma, an ideology that should resonate strongly with

the old time Democrats. I agree, where is he?

 

Maybe the VP debate will bring his energies to the forefront.

 

The Dems are just not as highly structure/political in there efforts as the Dems.

The Repubs do it like huge corporation would.

 

What does that tell you?

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Watching Elizabeth edwards at the town hall meeting. Dang, she could debate circles around that smirking chimp. Let her have at him!!

Dustbowl, I love you already!

 

What a fantastic idea! She is truly great. Maybe she will replace Hillary?

 

We already know that Mrs. Bush rules his roost, then come Karl and Dick.

This man has no ideas of his own.

 

LOL

This is what I meant about the gender gap being overcome by our Political sex change operation in the next election --one after another we're beginning to notice that woman can speak circles around our learning disabled presidential candidates--

 

Will it improve our lot? Of course not, but at least we can do a little beaver hunting

 

And as a humiliated male I WILL withdraw from politics once and for all

 

beardrech :ph34r: :ph34r: :cry:

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Doubt over Zarqawi's role as ringleader

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/...l?oneclick=true

 

American intelligence obtained through bribery may have seriously overstated the insurgency role of the most wanted fugitive in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

 

US agents in Baghdad and Fallujah have revealed a series of botched and often tawdry dealings with unreliable sources who, in the words of one, "told us what we wanted to hear".

 

"We were basically paying up to $US10,000 ($A13,700) a time to opportunists, criminals and chancers who passed off fiction and supposition about Zarqawi as cast-iron fact, making him out as the linchpin of just about every attack in Iraq," one agent said.

 

"Back home this stuff was gratefully received and formed the basis of policy decisions. We needed a villain, someone identifiable for the public to latch on to, and we got one."

 

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Duh. :mellow:

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I didn't realize this, but the spokesperson on that Cspan show is the the wife of

John Edwards.

 

Man, that is one powerfully smart lady!!

 

She is talking about why Americans get the contracts in Iraq and workers come

from Somalia while the Iraqis get no contracts or jobs.

Sherlock...From what I understand, Elizabeth Edwards is a very accomplished attorney who chose to stay home to raise their children.. You don't pass a state bar exam without a brain..

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Inquiry into Fannie Mae may hike mortgage cost

Albert Yoon

Bloomberg News

Oct. 2, 2004 12:00 AM

 

Fannie Mae's accounting errors may mean higher borrowing costs for homeowners.

 

The rate consumers pay on a 30-year, $200,000 home loan will likely rise 0.2 of a percentage point - an extra $9,200 over the course of the loan - as the largest U.S. buyer of mortgages slows growth to meet regulators' request to boost capital, said Kevin Jackson, a senior mortgage anal cyst at RBC Dain Rauscher Inc. in Chicago.

 

"There is going to be a cost that will be passed to the borrower," said Jackson, an anal cyst at Fannie Mae in the 1990s.

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Fannie Mae has 270 days to increase capital to 30 percent above the required minimum.

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Plunger - Elliot Spitzer.

Spitzer's office knows about it...and besides, Spitzer can only go after prosecutions when laws have been broken. Congress passed sweeping laws that provide for the PPT to do whatever they damn well please to ensure the stability of the markets, so as long as the Treasury Department is behind these activities, it's all totally legal.

 

We all know that oil over $50 and a Ten Year Bond that is being sold hand-over-fist since the Fannie fiasco is bearish as hell, so the action on Friday shows that there are forces more powerful than these at work here.

 

The entire US arsenal (political, media, governmental, business, military, religious, legal, etc.) is being used to prop the markets up in the most well orchestrated ballet ever conceived. Next week, the jobs numbers will totally suck, sending the Ten Year Yield straight back down. Next will come a major "diversion" to change the subject from the matter of jobs and Presidential debating skills to domestic terror threats. The last thing in the world Bush wants to do is be in another debate with Kerry. He has everything to lose and nothing to gain.

 

Edwards is going to crucify Cheney in this weeks debate. Edwards has remained below the radar for two reasons. First, the media hasn't given him any face time, but secondarily, his image and his numbers could never be higher than they were following the Democratic convention. He has done nothing to diminish his appeal...so the democrats have kept their powder dry for the final assault...and there will be an assault. Cheney has plenty of skeletons in his closet, and Edwards will expose each one, regardless of whether or not he is asked specific questions about each topic such as the "Secret Energy Meetings" in advance of the war or the "Plame Case"or the no-bid "Haliburton Contracts" or the "Haliburton Stock Options" he still owns, or "Cooked-Up Intelligence" to promote the case for invading Iraq, or "War Crimes."

 

Edwards has been preparing for the trial of King Dick, and the opening arguments should be electric. Evidence surfaced yesterday that Bush's political campaign may have been involved in helping Iraq's Allawi write his recent speech and talking points for his recent visit to the US. Many of the Iraqi leaders talking points were identical to those of the GOP political campaign.

 

Published on Friday,October 1, 2004 by Reuters

Report on US Role in Allawi Speech Stirs Complaint

 

 

WASHINGTON - President Bush came under fire from a senior Senate Democrat on Thursday after the Washington Post said the U.S. government and a representative of Bush's reelection campaign helped draft Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's speech to Congress last week.

 

Democratic Sen. Diane Feinstein of California said in a Sept. 30 letter to Bush that the newspaper report raised doubts about Allawi's optimistic assertions on Iraqi reconstruction efforts and the prospect for elections.

 

"To learn that this was not an independent view, but one that was massaged by your campaign operatives, jaundices the speech and reduces the credibility of his remarks," Feinstein said. "I hope that you'll let me know whether these claims are accurate."

 

The White House showcased Allawi's visit to the United States as evidence of progress in Iraq that bolstered Bush's optimistic outlook for the country in the face of escalating insurgent violence.

 

Allawi assured a joint session of Congress on Sept. 23 that Iraq would successfully hold elections in January and appeared alongside Bush in the White House Rose Garden where he blamed the news media for negative perceptions about his country.

 

But many of his remarks on Iraq employed the same themes, and sometimes the same terms, as statements by Bush and other administration officials.

 

On Thursday, the Post quoted unnamed administration officials as saying Allawi had been coached and aided by the U.S. government, its allies and friends of the administration.

 

It specifically cited former Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman Dan Senor for sending Allawi recommended phrases and helping him rehearse. The newspaper said Senor represents the Bush campaign in media appearances.

 

But Bush-Cheney spokesman Scott Stanzel said Senor did not work for the campaign, though he acknowledged that campaign staff direct media outlets to Senor for interviews.

 

"He's not a campaign spokesman, a consultant or a staff member," Stanzel said. "He's someone who speaks out on behalf of the president's policies. He's someone who supports the president's reelection."

 

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1001-23.htm

 

 

Oh good...so Senor's a member of the Shadow Government and a covert Bush Campaign operative who probably helps Fox News write their script every morning, and he helped Allawi write his speech. No worries!

 

If this proves to be true, then Allawi's credibility as a "Leader of a Sovereign Nation" is mud and the illusion of any independence from his US MINDERS will be shattered once and for all. Bush attacked Kerry for questioning the objectiveness of Allawi's assessment of the situation on the ground in Iraq. If it is now shown that GOP operatives put those words in Allawi's mouth, this whole thing could spin out of control in a big damn hurry. Don't be surprised if some high level military/CIA & FBI leaders start leaking the truth about Iraq and Bush/Cheney & Rumsfeld in order to facilitate their overthrow.

 

"Rathergate" didn't stick to the Kerry campaign, and they are on the offensive. Bush & Cheney are due for a rude, yet well deserved awakening.

 

 

John Edwards:

 

"When John Kerry and I are elected,one of our first orders of business will be to open a special investigation into the Treasonous Acts of this administration...of which there are several to choose from. The truth will come out, and when you no longer have the office of the President to hide behind, and the documents which prove these charges are in our hands instead of yours, your day of reckoning will come."

 

He didn't actually say that...yet.

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Doubt over Zarqawi's role as ringleader

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/...l?oneclick=true

 

American intelligence obtained through bribery may have seriously overstated the insurgency role of the most wanted fugitive in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

 

US agents in Baghdad and Fallujah have revealed a series of botched and often tawdry dealings with unreliable sources who, in the words of one, "told us what we wanted to hear".

 

"We were basically paying up to $US10,000 ($A13,700) a time to opportunists, criminals and chancers who passed off fiction and supposition about Zarqawi as cast-iron fact, making him out as the linchpin of just about every attack in Iraq," one agent said.

 

"Back home this stuff was gratefully received and formed the basis of policy decisions. We needed a villain, someone identifiable for the public to latch on to, and we got one."

 

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Duh. :mellow:

Zarkawi, like Bin Laden, is the name used to justify any and all nasty arial assaults and messy offensives. Whether or not this man even exists is not relevant. The script calls for a menacing Arab Terrorist's Face to put on screen to justify American Military Imperialism, and Zarkawi was chosen because there is no one to refute his existance. When the military invokes the name of Zarkawi, it is code for:

 

"we are killing innocent civilians whose country we are occupying on behalf of the corporate overlords."

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Associated Press

U.S. Pressing China Over Currency Value

Saturday October 2, 2:37 am ET

By Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer

Finance Meetings Focusing on China, Poor Nation Debt, Iraq and Oil

 

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration, seeking to achieve an economic breakthrough in the closing weeks of an election campaign, says China has made a serious commitment to overhauling a currency system that American manufacturers see as a major culprit in the soaring U.S. trade deficit.

 

However, China refused in one-on-one discussions with the United States and in broader talks with finance officials of the world's seven biggest industrial countries to say when it might stop linking the value of its currency, the yuan, to the U.S. dollar. Instead, it pledged only to "push ahead firmly and steadily to a market-based flexible exchange rate."

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But Treasury Secretary John Snow, who along with Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan led the discussions, insisted Friday that China was serious about moving toward a new currency system even if it did not provide a fixed date for the switch-over.

 

"I'm not going to put a clock on it, but as soon as possible is what we're looking for," Snow said. "We're saying can't this move faster?"

. . .

In addition to a debate over China's currency, the G-7 found itself at odds over a U.S. push to achieve agreement on forgiving 90 percent or more of Iraq's massive $120 billion foreign debt, something the administration sees as critical to restarting Iraq's war torn economy.

 

However, France and Germany are balking at such generous debt relief terms, insisting that 50 percent debt forgiveness was more appropriate for a country with vast oil reserves.

 

Russian Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin told reporters that the French and Germans were pushing a proposal that would forgive 50 percent of Iraq's debt by the end of this year and then go back to the question in three years when conditions in Iraq might be more stable.

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And don't forget Poland, yeah, yeah, Poland, that's right. And many others. There is a strong coalition that want uh, uh, peace, yeah yeah, peace. uh, uh,......Nukular Terrahists's don't like freedom and people who do like freedom well, uh uh, they like freedom...... Damnit, I knew Osama was the fella that attacked us, you don't have to tell me dat, I already knew that, uh, uh but Saddam was a dictator and uh, uh, he wanted WMD......DADDY, HELP ME!! Where is Karl, where is Karen, that guy is a flip-flopper, yeah a flop-flipping flopper flipper.

 

Editorial comment: It was nice to see a pious little playground bully get his ass kicked. I don't even care if he wins, I want him to suffer.

loved that one too :lol:

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Scenes From Spin Alley - Karl Rove, Mike McCurry, and other surrogates score the debate. By Chris Suellentrop

"MIAMI?Karl Rove must have known things didn't go well when the New York Post asked him whether this was the worst debate of President Bush's life. No, Rove insisted. This was one of the president's best debates, and one of John Kerry's worst. "Really?" asked the reporter, Vince Morris. "You can say that with a straight face?""

 

http://www.slate.com/id/2107516/

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