B4 the Bell, Weeeek End Thread

[Bearman]

Yesterday rog posted a link to a futures site which showed a 58% probability of a Bush victory, based on real-money bets.

 

Ray Fair, a Yale economist who developed a six-factor regression model to predict elections, also forecasts Bush getting 58% of the vote ... and that was BEFORE (and totally unrelated to) the post-CONvention poll boost:

 

Fo' mo years

 

Our absent sage buddhadropping (and no Republican, that's for sure) made the same prediction, during his last appearance several weeks ago.

 

Oligarchy theory says that the two political parties have cut a deal. Bush gets four more years, making eight total for the Republicans. Then the Democrats (most likely Hillary, not Kerry) get their eight years. Share and share alike -- it all goes into the same coffer.

 

The biggest clue -- what defines the Bush presidency? A war based on a Big Lie. What did his "opponent" Kerry say about it? -- That he would have voted for the Iraq war resolution, even KNOWING (as he in fact did know) that there were no WMDs.

 

I'm sorry, but Kerry is a ringer, a stooge, an accomplice of Bush. He was picked as a loyal placeholder, to go out and throw this "race." There is no "contest."

 

Hail Emperor Bush -- we who are about to lose, salute you!

CHIME IN

 

The next 4 yrs will ruin any parties chances for 40 yrs imo.

 

hilly clitless and her socialism will be just right as martail law

 

and the abadonment of the bill of rights take effect.

 

The U.N. doctrine will be used instead

 

Think I am kidding? Think Again

[beardrech]

Relax Machinehead, it's all in the genes:

 

"Because of the fact that every presidential candidate with the most royal genes and chromosomes has always won the November presidential election, the coming election - based on 42 previous presidents - will go to John Kerry."

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/...1284632,00.html

 

And the Kelley book will be so much fun, adding to the pile of Phillips, Martin, Moore, et al....lots of ammo for the debates...and even the other members of Skull & Bones tout Kerry's debating skills...

Lord Bryce says in the "American Commonwealth" that it appears that men capable of running for the presidency are, most times, inferior governors--(most not always)--and if one were to perform ther following experiment he's see what Bryce meant:

 

Imagine yourself as running for office--and then do the most scrupulously exacting introspection of uour personal biography; and exhibit all of the misdemeanors,felonies,and hi-crimes of your youth.

 

Then imagine the opposition in posession of a pscychological X-ray machine, and then, pointing it towards the deepest recesses of your feverishly anxious brain........

 

Now do you see why good men don't run very often--

 

Beardrech-- Good men never Run--they are RECRUITED--they are DRAFTED---something we lost with the toxified back-room cigar smoke when the recent creation of this maniacal carnival of Primaries sought, like a collective Diogenes, for a true man-of-the-people==It wont happen--Adlai Stevenson,whom most liberal worship for his honesty and intellectual brilliance, was chosen by the likes of the Mayor of Chicago Daley,father of the current mayor,a ruler of municipal gangsters,but who had enough wisdom that warned him that you don't play narcissistic f**karound when it comes to the biggest game of all--

[beardrech]

But of course Bearman---If I were runing for office my slogan would be,"Aprez moi le deluge superimposed upon a multicolored photograph of a gigantic wedding cake---

 

Signs of the times--I go into the Safeway (one of the three groceries I shoplift oops I mean shop at)---practically every item on EVERY shelf has a Discount tag--twofers everywhere--never mind the "reality " of the "bargain" but it surely indicates tremendous difficulty (like car lots) in moving inventory

 

Same day same location--a lady at the head of the checkout line I'm in--talking talking talking first to the cashier then the manager --I start talking to the lady behind me asking her where she got her crutch--really a beautiful model--she tells me and i offer her a book of recipes to stare at while the cashier customer coference goes on

 

The conference being over I pass through and exit the store--seeing the manager Iask him what the Hell was going on with the lady--it turns out she proffered coupons for bottles ofg Snapple--and the sharp eyed cashier doing her jobtold the lady that this was for a DIFFERENT FLAVOR not the one she wanted --the customer stood her ground and the manager, seeing the losses pile up, in time CAPITULATED--I bid him a good day saying,"Prepare yourself for more of these scenes as everybody is begginning to fight for every nickel and dime".

 

More signs--The fantastic popularity of motorcycle building programs--junkyard wars, and all kinds of VD shows devoted to the MANUAL arts--as if the last sense of Reality,the tactile sense, was being resurrected

 

beardrech :cry: Why such excitement in the aisles of the supermercado BD???

====I ve got gigantic shorts on Cans of Whipped Crean and Dietz's hot dogs

[Guest bullseatshitndie]

here they go again

AFP Photo

Official: U.S. Capture of bin Laden Close

http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in...Osama_Bin_Laden

[beardrech]

The simple fact is that most of the major coprorations have morphed into quasi-financials relying heavily on leverage.? And there's the rub.? The damage coming will attack the underpinnings of the financials.

What have been the "growth stories" of the cyclical rally since Oct. 2002? Tech and financials, right?

 

SOX, the flagship of the techs, reached a 12-month low yesterday after Intel lowered its revenue forecast. So much for the tech growth story.

 

That leaves the financials, now representing about a third of the S&P, if you include all the industrial 'financials in drag.'

 

The 'flowering of the financials' has been a function of giveaway interest rates, relentless currency pumping, and the misguided notion that systemic risk can be hedged (it cannot).

 

Doesn't the gigantic financial pyramid resemble one of those 10,000-ton balance rocks in Utah, supported on a tiny apex of low interest rates ... which Mad Al is now displacing with a levered timber ("Give me a fulcrum, and I will move the world!") ?

 

By the time Mad Al Magoo dimly perceives that the giant boulder's center of gravity has tilted off plumb, no force on earth will be capable of arresting its ponderous acceleration of angular momentum.

 

Mad Al himself may get 'splatted,' but that will be the least of our problems.

Mh, those equipoised multi-tonned boulders ,eternally teetering between gravity and grace, reminded me of a 15th century Italian despot characterised in the last paragraph of the chapter devoted to petty despotisms in Jacob Burckhardt's book "The Civilization of the Rennaisance in Italy"

quote

"A near despotism without morals or priciples such as Pandolfo Petrucci excercised whom after 1490 in Sienna.then torn by factions ,is hardly worth a closer consideration; insignificant and malicious he governed with the help of a Professor of jurisprudence and an Astrologer; and frightened his peopple by an occasional murder.

HIS PASTIME DURING THS SUMMER MONTHS WAS TO ROLL BLOCKS OF STONE FROM THE TOP OF MONTE AMIATA without caring what or whom they hit--

 

After succeeding where the most prudent failed in escaping from the devices of Cesare Borgia, he died at last, forsaken and despised,; His sons maintained a qualified supremacy for many years afterwards--

 

beardrech :cry: Anyone who uncritically(which includes myself) yearns for a return to smalltown life without the constraints of central governent should read the entire chapter--what I quoted was somewhat comical--but the rest of th echapter???---Oh boy

[ShitEatingGrinner]

"The biggest clue -- what defines the Bush presidency? A war based on a Big Lie. What did his "opponent" Kerry say about it? -- That he would have voted for the Iraq war resolution, even KNOWING (as he in fact did know) that there were no WMDs.

 

I'm sorry, but Kerry is a ringer, a stooge, an accomplice of Bush. He was picked as a loyal placeholder, to go out and throw this "race." There is no "contest."

 

Hail Emperor Bush -- we who are about to lose, salute you!"

 

 

 

 

 

The fun part is the reality of economics---cause and effect relationships. The world financial system is staggering toward collapse. Bush will still be in office this time next year, for a variety of reasons(electronic vote fraud, Kerry's handlers throwing the election, the ability of the shadow ghouls to prop the economy for another few months) but it will be the end of the Republican party for a generation. The misery index will go parabolic(it would do so no matter who is elected), and republicans will be there holding the bag.

 

Hillary post 2008 will be installed as a benevolent tyrant as the U.S. empire enters its terminal period. Does anyone think the dollar can survive through the end of this decade? I see it in the .30 range, or one-turd its current value by the end of the 00's. Game over. The only way the Matrix stays in power in its current iteration is if the U.S. military, with posse comitatus revoked, fires on the masses of miserable, homeless U.S. citizens intent upon destroying the elite still residing in North America.

 

How do we get inflation/hyperinflation? My uninformed opinion: Besides trillion dollar deficits every year, all those dollars around the globe will be coming home to flood the U.S. with currency. A panic to sell U.S. dollar denominated assets will get underway. Enough currency should be floating around to spark inflation, yes? No? At least at first until 30,000 dollars buys a loaf of bread. Then the deflation arrives. Peak oil. Water shortages. Both spark food shortages. WWIII. Not only is the game over, but the game board is set on fire and the game pieces get shoved up the asses of the game's losers in an orgy of scatalogical savagery. That's my spooky monster story for the week. We must now work in the garden...in this best of all possible worlds...

[longOnUranus]

I'm sorry, but Kerry is a ringer, a stooge, an accomplice of Bush. He was picked as a loyal placeholder, to go out and throw this "race." There is no "contest."

Short Iranian equities.

Long Tehran sandbox manufacturers

[Howl]

I don't watch much television. But today, I saw a couple of documentaries that made me think.

 

First was a simple documentary of the tragedy in the Russian school. This thing has been making headlines, and it really sad how innocent parents, teachers and kids have to suffer. I remarked that the Chechnyans have suffered far more than the people in Beslan. But the suffering of the Chechnyans does not make any headlines, at least not on western TV.

 

Then, there was a documentary about the health effects of depleted uranium in Iraq. This was a very impressive documentary. In both golf wars, the USA fired a lot of depleted uranium at enemy tanks. The USA knew that this stuff is radioactive and highly poisonous. Still they used it. And they denied it. Soldiers have been exposed to radioactive dust. A lot of those soldiers have developed terrible diseases. Children from these soldiers are often malformed. Worse, this radioactive dust has poisoned Iraq. Lots of children are dying from leukemia and other radiation-related diseases. Lots of malformed children are born. I figured this cruel negligence must have caused more grief, more children dying in a cruel way than what happened in Beslan.

 

It is no wonder that the Iraqi's don't see the USA as a liberator. This stuff is not reported on headline news.

[brian4]

We have a good Community on this thread and we are not constricted in any way from free and open discussion within the bounds of respect and decency. Doc and believe me many others (myself included) were offended greatly by MJK's post which started the whole damn event (Hell even TE who has a thick skin found it to be too much. Then Hyper who always walked on the edge of the knife got into it and expanded on it and now they are banned so we move on. As to Hi-Hat-I am sure Doc will tell us why-so we have to wait! I find it interesting there has been no comment on the continuing shut down of LAX one of the largest Airports in the World and the reporting by the major media who are standing by their story that there was an explosion and 7 people were injured while Tom Fridge and Crew are denying any explosion and/or injury which if true would mean LAX would of been up and running within an hour of the incident. The powers that be are trying desparately to stifle this one-aren't they!

[ShitEatingGrinner]

There was an "event" in Dallas a few weeks ago. At DFW. A suspicious suitcase was left unattended. Turned out to be a microphone use by the band "Polyphonic Spree." The microphone was a home made deal--constructed from telephone parts by the bassist(formerly my downstairs neighbor). He makes these mikes to sell for supplemental income. He got into all kinds of trouble, he told me. Had to show the FBI footage of his band as well as other bands using the microphone in concert. This was a "big" story for a few days. Freakin' paranoia rules the U.S. Terrorists need not do another thing. They already won...

[zensmoke]

here they go again

AFP Photo

Official: U.S. Capture of bin Laden Close

http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in...Osama_Bin_Laden

Nothing to see at LAX-----everthing is under "control"

And we are now minutes away from unthawing evil doer #1.

 

I feel so much safer.....but not safe

[brian4]

I think the top may well be in, Tuesday's Astro is the sun conjoining Mars and squaring Pluto-THAT is as nasty as it gets, it usually means a event a blindside hit if you like and if you are Fibo oriented and run the numbers on this rally it too looks ominous-combine the two and you have extreme anger and stress and irrational behavior which we have seen already here in our Community. Today we have the extreme fury of a major Hurricane, extreme violence in Ossetia and Iraq and an unknown incident at LAX. These are all typical of what I have outlined above, expect more of it!

[Guest]

Security Concerns Prompt LAX Shutdown

 

Saturday, September 04, 2004

 

LOS ANGELES ???Four terminals at?Los Angeles International Airport (search)?were shut down for about three hours Saturday after a passenger bypassed security at one terminal and a flashlight battery exploded during screening at another, authorities said.

 

The two incidents a half-hour apart on the busy Labor Day weekend appeared to be unrelated, said?FBI (search)?spokeswoman Cathy Viray. Several people suffered minor injuries.

 

Those batteries must have been big.

[Mars]

This is certainly a depressed weekend. First all of the bannings that have been going on and while I agree with the rationale it doesn't make them less depressing. Second the hurricane in Florida and I live 1200 miles away from the place. Already saw a report of a death from a tree falling into a house.

 

Then the innocents in Russia being killed. And for what? To make headlines. To bring attention to a cause. No - it was a premptive strike for freedom.

 

Back in the 70's I read in Izvestia about the coming Soviet Islamist problem. At that time over 25% of the Soviet Union was Islamic mostly in Russian territories and the author was writing a warning that some day that was going to present a problem. Well that someday is here. Russia needs to cut Chechnya loose but it can't because if one domino falls in the region then the entire Caucases go. And the Caucases (and I'm probably misspelling that) are the oil lands of the Russias. So there is no way that Putin or any other Russian leader is going to free Chechnya.

 

Another interesting fact is that they have been fighting the Russians since the mid-1800's even though they were conquered around 1860. During WWII the Germans entered Mother Russia through Chechnya (with no resistance) and after the war Stalin sent all 880000 Chechins off to Siberia for reeducation. About a quarter of a million died as a result.

 

So this looks like another war without end since it has been going on for 140 years. And there is a lot of attention being paid to it by the way. If there weren't the remaining Chechins would be long gone.

 

Always always always follow the money.

 

Mars

[NWD]

I find it interesting there has been no comment on the continuing shut down of LAX one of the largest Airports in the World and the reporting by the major media who are standing by their story that there was an explosion and 7 people were injured while Tom Fridge and Crew are denying any explosion and/or injury which if true would mean LAX would of been up and running within an hour of the incident.

What's to comment on?

 

A guy's flashlight battery went bad and blew up, injuring seven pedestrians and necessitating shut-down of one of the biggest airports on the planet.

 

Happens all the time.