BarBu Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 0.5 @ 1944.19 (2000.92, 1887.46) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Thanks Dozer for getting the silver piled up. It all in the lining. What I liked about the d-12 Everything. I was going to set stakes for the road he said don.t bother ,where do you want it Just walk down the center and I'll foolow you. Presto instant Road. Loveeeeeeeeee it. Oh He did ask the grade I said 2% He said done and it was. The right man and the right machine. Well just get outta the freaking way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned38 Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I notice we are under 10k anybody else see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Wave Rider Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 This is startin' to remind me of Jan 1984..it was Friday the 13th, as I recall. They were trying to close the Dow over 1300 (seems hardly believable now, eh?) Well, in the last 15 min, the thing sold off hard, and then went down almost every day after that until the end of February, from 1300 to 1120. Maybe we can get a repeat performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregFokker Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 sure wish the mkt would close, I have to pee Just head over and do it in Bullstool.,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 H2: how much of that return was from dividends? How does one account for the stocks that get kicked out of the indices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jrmfl Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I take it back...just pulled the Ibbotson chart from my old days at SmithBarney From 1925-1999 Small Cap stocks 12.5% Large Cap Stocks 11.3% Long term govt bonds 5.1% T bills 3.8% Inflation 3% adjusted for the crash in 2000 thru now probably avg around 9% apologies, thought you were referring to total returns thru-out history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 LLD, Good catch on the Fed minutes. Here is the Bloomberg story: http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...efer=news_index Bulls as usual have got the wrong end of the stick and the bond market is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdymouth Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 urf urf urf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearman Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 <H1> FEAR IS NEAR</H1> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jrmfl Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I knew today was a bad day to stop shooting up flu vaccine. . . read somewhere the mercury in those flu shots increases the chance of alzhiemer's by 1000%. may have to load up on flu shots, i don't want to remember the good times when this mess goes bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soup Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I do not trust them, watching for the +1500 tick on the close. ( then the sell off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefywiefy Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I take it back...just pulled the Ibbotson chart from my old days at SmithBarney From 1925-1999 Small Cap stocks 12.5% Large Cap Stocks 11.3% Long term govt bonds 5.1% T bills 3.8% Inflation 3% adjusted for the crash in 2000 thru now probably avg around 9% I believe Doc has previously called Ibbotson paid lying whores for the borkers. Something like that though with more flair. I'm sure he can find it for you. :wink2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jrmfl Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 SOX 500 ran into the wall in the final turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I'm not married to either side of this market, but the fact is over the last 100 years or so Stocks return a very respectable 8% a year....Does'nt mean they always will, but thats the historical fact. 7.6% is the historical average (including the two major manias 20's, 90's). The devil is in the details: 3.4% dividends 2.2% inflation 2% economic increase in value of course those who bought during manias or at other peaks will experience growth well below 7.6% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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