beardrech Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Iraq is about to go helter skelter. Seems that over half of the Iraq government resigned over the US fighting and some governors and police officials are considering open revolt. But... but... Iraq is "sovereign" now. ------------------- Ahhh... gimme that ol' time rhyming history! BAGHDAD - With its twin minarets and glinting gold dome, the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf has been a beacon for the Muslim faithful for more than a thousand years. But with fighting raging around the Iraqi shrine, one of the holiest sites in Shiite Islam is reprising a different historical role: rallying point against foreign forces. In 1920, rebels intent on kicking out British troops occupying the region gathered at the mosque and readied for revolt. Among their leaders was Sayyid Mohammed Sadr ? the scion of a prominent Shiite family and a future prime minister. Eighty-four years later, cleric Muqtada Sadr, one of Sadr's descendants, wants the U.S. military out. All eyes are once again trained on the shrine... - LA Times The World Trade Center,for almost thirty years a sacred shrine was destroyed along with 3000 of their Capitolistic devotees---the shrine of a naton with thousands of nuclear weapons destroyed so easily and the Great powers modest response is a modern miracle-- Unless this Iraqui venture is succesfully completed the tiny and vulnerable nation of Israel with its biblical roadmap and recent hit of 6 million casualties behind it will be untethered by the lack of international justice and it will take appropriate measures into its own hands--Why wont they ever learn? beardrech War is a crime and thats why the criminals must be punished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearHugs Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Japan big miss on GDP. Looks like it's broken down for the second time, maybe for good this time. Government data showed April-June gross domestic product (GDP) grew a real 1.7 percent on an annualised basis, compared with a median forecast in a Reuters poll of 4.1 percent growth. Big miss on GDP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pee Brain Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Full court PR press to invade Iran...Venezuela... Market meter will be late tonight. You know in two years it has only been wrong once and that was only for a day. Tampa stores are out of batteries, water, bread. Highways north are getting crowded. Plunger - if we don't invade Iraq, Iran and Venezuela there will not be enough preparation H. Some people may be pissed off because of what I feel like saying, but here goes. I went to the ATM today, which was busy. I drove a small ford escort and I turned off the engine and did my business there. Three other drivers in very large SUV and Trucks ran their engines while they stood in line and did their withdrawls. I was raised in a home where we were told to shut out lights, save energy save money. All the time I see the SUV drivers waste waste and waste and it pisses me off cause when I was a kid we would get yelled out if we didn't save energy and money. Makes me want to smack 'em. Kids are dying because of oil - how about a little concern for that. Cut the engine, dammit. Am I wrong here? ps - I can afford a Ferrari if I wanted to get from point A to point B and look like a rich asshole. I have to agree with you. It was amazing to return back to FL. So many large SUV's. It must be the hard winters in FL. I notice not as many SUV's in New England. No place to park them. Every time I see a Hummer makes me want to walk up to the and just say. " What is wrong with you. Why are you stealing everyones oil. " stealing everyone's oil? he paid for, so its his and its therefore to use as he chooses. its that simple..... how would you feel if after you paid for your groceries, someone rammed your cart and asked you why you were stealing everyone's food. i do notice that allota hot chicks drive hummers, which makes me wanna bang on the window and ask her where MY hummer is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pee Brain Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Expecting.........after hurricane passes an 8' Tidal Surge..that will washright over whole coastal communities. they say some area be under 12' water.................... Police on TV saying once it sets in NO 911........you on your own. not looking good............................................................................... im glad i didnt tie up that deal in Fort Myers. no kidding on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardrech Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Best to clarify before I am skewered for my rant. My laughter is not a celebration of our dead bretheren, by any measure, though it is an unavoidable consequence. It is rather the laughter of exhausted irritation with watching someone fall into trap after trap after trap. The dog keeps trying to bag the porcupine, and comes home whelping and confused, night after night. This is the story of us & Sadr. We were going to get him, "dead or alive." Then, we were going to launch an offensive, but then backed down. This was in late spring. Now, we're back to preparing to launch an offensive, and then stalling, and then watching the political consequences of this bewildering strategery and tactictings boomerang upon us. Depends posted a picture of himself in Vietnam. I am grateful he came back alive, and certainly mean no disrespect to those who serve... especially those with delghtful little charts. It is a serious matter to send those who volunteer, and those who are conscripted, to war to die. To do so casually or wrecklessly is of great dishonor--not by those who serve, but those who write the orders. The only person in the administration who understands this is Colin Powell--sadly, about 24 months too late--which is why he has gone silent, and will not play a role at the Republican convention. He has been party to great dishonor, and he knows it. Let me attach my Aplogia vita sua I was trained as a tail gunner during the Korean War but thank God the war ended just before we were to go overseas---I am, unlike Kerry, always honor bound, to mention this absence of combat experience in the same breath but I remember the fear in my very being when at eighteen and a half i realized what a terrible thing i had volunteered for-- this is no joke-I mean the period we are going into--but I can honestly say that my fear of being cut in two by an enemy shell is outweighed by my fear off living in a world of sadistic false isalamists who have hijacked a religion and are embarking on a nihilistic voyage into world destruction-- forget about nukes --and prepare for the first outbreak in a village near you of smallpox--which sight can only be appreciated if examined in an advanced medical text beardrech remember Abe Lincoln supended the writ of Habeus corpus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstrack Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 The weather has been so strange over the past few years. We had a high of 61 or 62 degrees in Chicago today...a record low and tonight be a record too. I was in Alaska last year and it was in the 80's. Buffet just said that he has been lucky that there has not been any major insurance claims...that might be about to change.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 [Libertarian] Wasted vote. That wasted vote thing: Choose either red or blue flavored Statism because to vote for freedom is a waste? I don't get it. How do you change things or vote against creeping statism unless you vote against statists? The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Its a matter of strategic timing. In Project Management we charted the things that had to be done first before the 2nd and 3rd steps were initiated on the way to an end goal. A simplistic view of how we clear a slums area and build a new high rise. There are many interrelated steps to get to the end goal. You can't lay a new foundation until the old crap is removed. Similarly, in modern medicine today, you have to kill any infection in the body before the docs will even consider the surgery to save your life. What is the goal? To restore the integrity of our constitution, to restore our civil rights by filling our houses of government with people who honor that goal. So, the first step is to remove the slum area/the infection. Interpretation: the current administration and their minions. You gotta stop the bad guys from doing more bad stuff. To try jumping ahead of the removal stage and to try laying a new foundation with Libertarians can only lead to chaos and collapse of the project/goal because its not the strategic time to take that step. Any decent Project Manager knows that you have to deal with the powers that exist if you have any hope at all of your project succeeding. Where does the power exist? Is it local zoning boards, City building commissions that must approve of your project? or is it a Party that already has National Recognition and holds some seats in govt. You cannot replace the City Building Commissioner without joining forces with the strongest factions that oppose him even if you don't like those factions. It is only through consolidation of power that changes can be made. After the Repubs, the strongest power base is the Democrats. They are the strongest, biggest group opposed to the the Bush Admin. After the fiasco of the 2000 elections, the stunned populace didnt react. We didn't build a new power base for a 3rd Party. Well, shame on us. Simply voting Libertarian now is a cop-out! It is a protest vote at a time when the Strategic Timing/the Program Mgmt plan calls for a consolidation of power. Remember the old rule of divide and conquer. Here in Michigan, the Repubs provided signatures to get Ralph Nadar on the ballot. That is a fact! Does that mean Repubs will vote for Nader? No way in HELL! It is a strategic means of splitting the Democrat's votes. Same happened in the West. What I suggest is that those who want to get rid of BushCo need to align with like-thinking people and get the job done. Then we need to find a national hero that can lead us to a new era, a new foundation, under a new banner, a new party, perhaps. As I study what works and what doesn't, the engineering principles of Project Management tell the story. If we splinter now into protest votes, the current powers will remain in control, the slums will not be cleared, the infection willl not be killed, and the dreams for a better future (the goal) is dead. We will ultimately write off our efforts as "sunk costs." Decades later, the Sheeple will arise out of poverty and shame to put right the things we of this generation failed to do. Sherlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Sherlock..... Did you find my answer to your 8/11 post....rack price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardrech Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Expecting.........after hurricane passes an 8' Tidal Surge..that will wash right over whole coastal communities. they say some area be under 12' water.................... Police on TV saying once it sets in NO 911........you on your own. not looking good............................................................................... im glad i didnt tie up that deal in Fort Myers. no kidding on this one. I would honestly wish all of these snowbirds God Speed if it wasn't their derisive laughter at my living where it snows(not terribly) and the conjoint expressive interrogatives like,"How does it feel to get those icicles on your testicles you frigid midget with a rigid digit?" beardrech :cry: I hate weather;It cant be trusted;its always changing its mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Thread two thumbs up-well said. Doctors are no longer capped it is now strictly fee per patient but they are audited continously for uneccesary procedures. I agree also with Jimi and Depends with an exception sometimes when diplomacy fails the world has to act as they did in Bosnia and many other Hell-holes. When they act under the U.N. and you wear the Blue Helmet you are not perceived as a Cowboy but rather as a Peacemaker and then a peace keeper, there is a difference when the world acts together. I agree. I'm not sure why I lost it as I did. There seems to me something so obviously counterproductive in the long term with threatening Najaf. We have bought forward future consumption through personal debt, governmental debt, and loose monetary policy, and pretend like it won't have an impact on future consumption and future generations. I guess I see Iraq as expanding the current tendency into security: purchasing future security forward, the consequences be damned for future generations. It's become an easy habit with a miserable rendezvous with The Brick Wall of Reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Where have they been for the last 5 weeks? Depends....Are you really sure you want to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depends Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Buffet just said that he has been lucky that there has not been any major insurance claims...that might be about to change.... jstrack - i am confused - is your icon the hurricane or you running to the crapper? Sherlocks I understand easy! By the by ... I shorted ALL today - couldn't help myself. Tried PMI and stopped out tight - butt ALL is working. I believe your weather observations are important because you actually experienced them. Appreciate that. Thanks very much to the stoolie who recommended 'The Haj' by Leon Uris. It is a jewel of a read and I now understand the middle east to a greater depth. Who recommended it? I wish my Jewish relatives would read it too, as they have taught me their history. My favorite uncle, by marriage, is Jewish and long discussions with him and my cousins in Phila and the mitzvahs have given me the love of their tradition. But if I gave him The Haj to read he might disown me. Great book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstrack Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Jimi, That seems to be a lesson to be learned before we head into Iran or elsewhere. But what we are facing this night are bombs being dropped in Kut and fighting in the holy cemetary. The bombing in Kut, reportedly, killed a lot of civilians. This type of fighting will lead to more and more violence. There is no winning the hearts and minds of the people of Iraq any more....there will just be death and violence to plauge the land and spread throughtout the world. I am so pessimistic about the way things are going I want to throw-up. I know I'm off topic....sorry... The fighting in Iraq will likely lead to some awful pictures coming out into the newspapers and television. I think that will have a negative tone to the market, but that will be left to be seen... Everyone here on this board is so darn smart....I just can't believe it. Best wishes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hypertiger Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Every Religion has been hijacked/corrupted... The Luciferians are at the top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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