DrStool Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Comments welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbowl Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 I will repost an idea from the other Stooltrading thread. Is there a way for YOU to refresh our screens, like the auto-refresh feature, whenever you post a change? I don't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted February 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Not that I know of. Usually I post a change on at least one of the charts every 3 minutes, which is why I set the autorefresh at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbowl Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Doc, It has been a couple of weeks now since the beta Stooltrading site has been operational. Do you have any ideas about subscription rates yet? Maybe do a poll and see how many would sign up so you could get an idea of the feasibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbowl Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 One more idea. Maybe you could have some type of java applet that allows you to update the charts and we can see it in real-time? Not sure how to do it but I have seen it done before. Would need some java expert to help with this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted February 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 I wouldn't be allowed to do that even if I could. Would have to develop proprietary software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdentGuy Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Doc, The auto-refresh currently implemented is WONDERFUL. During the day, I am usually jumping from window to window to window, etc. Before the auto-refresh, I would move to my StoolTrading window, hit refresh, and then move on to something else...sometimes forgetting to come back and examine the refreshed data for 15-20 minutes. Now, when I move to the StoolTrading window, the latest data is already there waiting for me. I love it! Suggestion: While I don't want to add to your workload, I would appreciate a time stamp on each of the four charts to know when they were last massaged with your skillful hands. Perhaps there is some way to automate a time stamp on the charts. Suggestion: I would also like to see the charts archived several times a day. I would suggest three (3) times a day. For example: 10:30 AM, 1:00 PM and 3:30 PM. The last three (3) archived chart sets could be on the bottom of the page. Links could be added to point back to the previous seven (7) sets of charts before those. Thank you for being there for us! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted February 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 No can do Ardent. No way to time stamp. This is a shortcoming of eSignal. Archiving? No, to that one too. I'm maxed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 When I used to refresh it myself it would come back refreshed to the same part of the stooltrading screen I was at. With the automatic, it brings you back up to the top of the screen, if that can not be changed I'd rather do the refresh myself. If this can be changed I'd rather have the automatic. Also, on a different note, is it possible to put the one day cycle charts closer to the commentary area. While the market day is going on, it's that day's chart that I am more interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windbreaker Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 I like Stooltrading! -- While I like the idea of auto-refresh, for my tastes, 3 minutes is MUCH too often, and since it takes my dialup connection to the internet the better part of 20 seconds to load the page to begin with.... I really hope that you would be able to make this feature optional --- One possibility is to have two pages, one which offers the auto-refresh and another that does not. Thanks, Doc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 I can't afford to monitor StoolTrading - I have a real job. Even keeping up with IDS by glancing there several times during the day is starting to use way too much of my time. So, I don't really feel qualified to vote on this poll - because no matter what the outcome, it wouldn't be affecting me anyway. However, I can offer an opinion. Basically, no matter what you do, you can never please everyone. Some would want auto-refresh, others will hate it. The only satisfactory compromise is to provide both options. On the user side, it can be done by having the page not auto-refresh but suggest the user to use a Web browser that can refresh automatically at specified time periods - like AvantBrowser (there probably are others that can do this; it's just that I am using this one). On the server side, it would be nice if the auto-refresh feature was user-configurable; something each user could set up for themselves. Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the software that drives this board, so I have no idea how easy it is to implement it - or even whether it is possible at all. Doc, can you introduce custom user settings - in additon to those the board's software provides to each user? Also, when generating the page, can you check these settings? If yes, then you could instert (with some PHP code) the "meta refresh" tags depending on whether the user requesting the page has the auto-refresh feature set or not. Sort of like now the board is generating different pages for viewing a thread, depending on how many messages per thread page the user has set up in their settings. Regards, Vesselin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrStool Posted February 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Stooltrading is not on the message board. It is a straight html page. Since I am not a programmer and have not a clue about any of this stuff, any programming ahs to be done by you guys. I am happy to insert snippets of code from those of you whom I know well, and trust. That's where the page refresh came from. I think overall, it's more of an annoyance and I will discontinue it. I am open to all ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drano Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Thank you for being there for us! John What could be more appropriate on this site than having a john thank Doc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FauxCaster Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 It is possible to have the graphics refresh through server-side php (we know you have it installed ) or client-side javascript and a randomizing trick Server-side: The page would be called as http://www.capitalstool.com/trades.php?refresh=XXXXXX for refeshing php is a server side processor and you can write a script that will process the refresh variable from the URL query string (and error-checking for too frequent refreshes, or no value). After error-checking, you stick the variable into the meta refresh tag on the server-side. It's all quite easy and simple. If you want to add a pull-down menu and use the GET action, it will automate it further. ====== Client side for images: The images can have a javascript name attached them so they become part of the document object, then you have a javascript script attached to a menu for refresh rates, that will put a timer on the client side to pull in the new image periodically. The way to trick the browsers cache is to put a random string (or date stamp) at the end of the file name after a '?', this tricks the browser into thinking its a different dynamic image each time. For example http://www.capitalstool.com/s6.png would be called as an image swap for http://www.capitalstool.com/s6.png?200302060352 With the last part being part of the script generating the date stamp to pull a new image. ====== The php is probably easiest and most convient for viewers, but it does add more server load for the pre-processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FauxCaster Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 RE: archiving, Doc, I don't know about the esignal licensing, but php has a lot of built-in file handling capablities, archiving the images could be handled by php and cron automatically. You could set it and forget it. There might even be some ready-made scripts for archiving in php. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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