Farmer Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Brian4 ,what , in your opinion can they possible do when the trap door opens this freaking far. It seems to me it will take mighty big ram to get it shut again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent.5 Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 But some selling here will goose up the tax receipts and force some money into bond. Al is trying to keep DOW above 10K, keep all bad news away from page one of the news, and continue to invent "evidence" of an economic recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Limit Down Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 my 1st reaction to hearing about jpm/one is that they need this major headline to bury crappy earnings reports on the way I have no doubt the feds fingerprints are all over this deal. Consolidating their holdings for reasons unknown. One of them surely has problems. Was JPM not part of the gold short community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearbones Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 my 1st reaction to hearing about jpm/one is that they need this major headline to bury crappy earnings reports on the way The progeny of the marriage of two pigs is still a pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiding Bear Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 In the "yes we have no inflation" department, natural gas prices soared to record highs in the NE US - $47.50 in NYC vs. $6.47 on exchange traded contracts. The record prices are attributed to pipeline delivery problems. Northeast Gas Association Requests Voluntary Natural Gas Conservation Through Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crooked_analyst Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 As if they didn't know the INTC results....the slamming of gold forced "safe" money into the bonds. Al G. NEEDS the inflow into the bonds....AL G. can and will slam gold to keep "safe" money away from the alternatives. The scary thing is that maybe things ARE that bad that a 4% yield is attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 .....SILLY BULLIES! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! .....I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHanky Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 how the heck can tasr go from $3.65 to $115.75 in one freakin year? unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieBear Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 I need a widows and orphans investment, something with safety. Where do the conservator trustees put widows and orphans money these days? I asked my financial advisor (the guy who does my taxes) where to park some money I would need in a year to buy a new house. Something very conservative, after he talked me out of paying off our current mortgage. He put us into a short term tax free bond fund (CTFLX). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 how the heck can tasr go from $3.65 to $115.75 in one freakin year? Only in America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Thanks Goldie exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHanky Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Only in America I would love to buy some puts on that pile o crap.the problem is there are no options trading for tasr(none that i can find) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summoner Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 woooowzaaa .....pms on sale today if your an investor, not for short term traders most of the miners and the xau have beautiful cup and handles forming on the monthly charts ...long term uptrend line still holding.....should begin to see some consolidation before the next upleg This market aint for children Window blinds must have been closed on wall street late this afternoon....eh TRADE SAFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Here's the closing bond mkt comment-I'm as confused at the rest of you--this may give some insight-Ed Hyman 2% 10 yr....Lord have mercy! Treasury Market Commentary 1515 CT (MktNews) - U.S. Treasuries notched another higher close Wednesday amid grave concerns about another wave of mortgage convexity and yields on the 10-year slid below 4.00%. In a session earmarked by two-way flows eventually overshadowed by short covering, most longer coupon Treasuries marked their seventh consecutive session of gains. On a closing basis, the 30-year was the outperformer, lower in yield by 5.6 basis points to 4.884%. However, yields on the 2-year and 3-year note rose by 1.6 basis points and 1.3 basis points, respectively to 1.619% and 2.045%, accordingly. The key was the intermediate 10-year note, which saw yields fall 4.4 basis points to 3.986%, below the critical 4.000% threshold. As a result, the 2-year/5-year curve flattened 3.3 basis points to +133.8 vs. +137.1 basis points on the close Tuesday. The 2-year/10-year curve flattened 6.0 basis points to +236.7 compared to +242.7 late Tuesday. The 2-year/30-year portion flattened 7.2 basis points to +326.5 vs. +333.7 basis points Tuesday afternoon. Aside from short covering, the session included patches of convexity buying, sources said. Treasury futures saw evidence of such action as the yield on the 10-year note fell below 4.000%, sources said. At that time, a French firm scooped up 7,000 Mar 10-year contracts, which was believed to be mortgage related. One floor broker said, "there are not many guys left that want to buy that much size at current levels, so it is either a foreign central bank or mortgage related." There was much debate Wednesday surrounding what yield would be the trigger point for convexity buying. Many market veterans opined that it was between 3.900% and 3.750% on the 10-year note. But, Walt Schmidt, a manager of the Mortgage Strategy group at FTN, said in a research note that 3.750% would put $379 billion in Agency issues with a 6.00% coupon in-the-money for refinancing "with the massive 5.50% coupon (about $660B) just around the corner." He added that currently, the 6.00% coupons have about 80 basis points of incentive and he assumes it takes 100 basis points of incentive to make a coupon fully refinanceable. Before the recent rally, the market had been trading in a 50 basis points range for many months and most accounts were positioned for higher rates, he said. But, now with the 10-year note hovering around 4.000%, there is a threat that the market may break out of the range, forcing real money and hedge funds to scramble to buy duration. Schmidt also notes that when players get forced into the market, it is often easier to lengthen duration with Treasuries or swaps instead of mortgages, which would exacerbate any rally. Traders noted since there is a great potential for another mortgage convexity wave, there were a certain amount of accounts buying in front of this possible move. But, they pointed out that 10-year swap spreads, were wider by just 0.25 basis points at the close Wednesday. A large move in that spread would be indicative of heavy mortgage convexity need, they said. Meanwhile, the late afternoon release of the Federal Reserve's January beige book remained upbeat and found "the nation's economy has continued to improve since the last survey" (Jan. 6 cut-off). In contrast, the prior book (Nov 17 cut-off) said, "the economy continued to expand in October and early November." The most recent beige book said the San Francisco region was strongest, but other areas gave favorable reports, and retailers and manufacturers report "generally steady" prices. Holiday sales were positive, manufacturing increased, and housing remained strong. Commercial real estate remains weak. The book was prepared by the Kansas City Fed. Anthony Karydakis, a financial economist at Bank One, said in a research note, "The tone of the beige book was overall positive, but with somewhat uneven reports from the various districts." Predictably enough, manufacturing activity was characterized as improving in "nearly all districts", with some regions even reporting modest gains in factory jobs (something which has yet to be seen in the payroll data), Karydakis said. Still, "Net, net, there was no major surprise in the information included in the beige book, although its tone seemed slightly restrained compared to the reality of a 6+% rate of GDP growth that the economy has turned out in the last six months," he said. Earlier, the market focused on data as the core Producer Price Index for December fell 0.1% and the overall rose 0.3%. Meanwhile, the U.S. trade balance for November was -$38.0 billion, much better than expected, a factor that will help GDP. 01/14 (1515)k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Limit Down Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 1793 Feb 47.5 calls on Bank One bought today. SEC where are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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