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50 minutes ago, DrStool said:

I've been out and about. Just came back. Can you give me a link? 

OK. It's horrifying. I've been afraid of this for 3 years. The next 6 months are going to be sheer unimaginable hell in the US. 

I have always believed that it would come down to whether the US Military stands by the oath soldiers take to the Constitution. I have believed that it will. 

Let's hope my record stays good on this. 

 

 

 

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It would be better if finally, once and for all, Trump's own people would stand up and repudiate this shit. But that might be too much to ask. Hopefully, democracy and the rule of law will be restored soon, and there will be prosecutions. Many of them. 

Because if none of that happens, our representative democracy is finished. We will live under autocratic rule.  The fascists are in ascendency.  It's time to get up off your asses and take out the trash. More moms on the wall. More dads with leaf blowers.  

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20 minutes ago, DrStool said:

OK. It's horrifying. I've been afraid of this for 3 years. The next 6 months are going to be sheer unimaginable hell in the US. 

I have always believed that it would come down to whether the US Military stands by the oath soldiers take to the Constitution. I have believed that it will. 

Let's hope my record stays good on this. 

 

 

 

Lee I respectfully disagree. John Roberts is no friend of Trump...this is a states rights issue...he and the liberal justices will put a stop to this before the Military ever gets involved...IMVHO

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27 minutes ago, No Einstein said:

Lee I respectfully disagree. John Roberts is no friend of Trump...this is a states rights issue...he and the liberal justices will put a stop to this before the Military ever gets involved...IMVHO

They are currently defying the Supreme Court DACA case ruling. Trump doesn't give a flying shit what the Supreme Court says. He controls all enforcement of Federal Law. Who is the muscle behind Supreme Court? The US Marshals. US Marshals are under Himmler's control. 

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So, in the end, it's up to Himmler.  And he knows that if Trump leaves, he's going to jail. In my opinion there's no chance he'd fall on his sword.  So who will escort Trump out on Jan 20? The Capitol police? Not likely with a cordon of Secret Service and US Marshals lined up to protect Trump. Only the US Military has the might to end such a nightmare. 

In any event, it will be an extra Constitutional coup. Trump has revealed that the Constitution is toilet paper. He merely needs control of the DoJ and DHS and he is the Law of the Land. He and Barr have no allegiance to the Constitution. The Courts are meaningless to them. These people are traitors. And so are the Republicans in the US Senate.  

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But delaying the election is a non starter. There will be an election. If the votes isn't massively hacked, Trump will lose by a lot. That's a big if.  Where I think the problem lies is in him leaving. He will sow chaos and go scorched earth first. Then I think it's not a question of "if" he leaves, but how.  I'm not sure that I'd want to be home in the US at that point. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Jimi said:

They are all Nazi storm troopers.  Good on Kaine for putting Pompeo, who is as corrupt and craven as Trump, on record.  Unfortunately, Barr is even more evil, if that's possible.  

But, my hope is, my opinion is, that the majority of the American people are finally fed up with this shit, and won't allow it. The 33% hard core racists and Nazis will never leave him. I feared that that might be enough for them to entrench their power. But the PR optics are going really badly for them now. They are misjudging this trend.  The uprising against them is gaining steam, and they seem unable and unwilling to recognize that.   

But if they do not face certain justice, if they are not crushed like the vermin they are, they will come back.  

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