Jimi Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 You know the old saying. "Buy the rumor; sell the effing pandemic that is killing thousands and has the western economies in stand still...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy beach Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 We just past the 50K confirmed cases mark in the U.S. A few days at most before we hit 100K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Dan Patrick is a facist at heart. It is almost unbelievable what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy beach Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Oxford is about to piss all over Imperial College of London's tooth brush: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxmu2rwsnhi9j9c/Draft-COVID-19-Model (13).pdf?dl=0 PDF warning. They are basically saying Imperial College is full of hot air and that the majority of people in Italy and the UK are already infected and the case fatality rate is therefore only a small fraction of what was projected. So they should be reaching herd immunity soon. I have a really hard time buying this but I will let the data convince me. Luckily this is a theory that can be tested. This will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy beach Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, fxfox said: Dan Patrick is a facist at heart. It is almost unbelievable what he said. I have no clue who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, sandy beach said: I have no clue who he is. ESPN guy. Anchored SportsCenter for many years and has nationally syndicated radio show. He wants to kill the Lt. Governor of Texas’ grandparents or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, sandy beach said: I have no clue who he is. Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick: 'I'm all in' on risking my health to lift social distancing guidelines for economic boost https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/coronavirus-texas-social-distancing-guidelines/index.html He basically says "Survival of the fittest". That's social Darwinism and that's facism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy beach Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 You are killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy beach Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 FT has a plain English version for anyone interested. Call this the "back to work people" theory out of Oxford: https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, sandy beach said: FT has a plain English version for anyone interested. Call this the "back to work people" theory out of Oxford: https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b What's your personal view regarding this "theory"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy beach Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 I'm blind on this. What we need to do is go to the ground zero hot spots in the US like NY, WA and CA and start a series of random serology tests and see just how widespread the infection is so we can see what is going on. If most people have antibodies as this is suggesting then we are closer to the finish line than anyone suspected and this is much less deadly than anyone suspected. This would be easy and cheap and we could get results in days. I just can't believe that we are making such huge policy decisions without doing this first. I'm still trying to wrap my head around their arguments. But their basic position about needing to do sampling of the population is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, sandy beach said: Oxford is about to piss all over Imperial College of London's tooth brush: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxmu2rwsnhi9j9c/Draft-COVID-19-Model (13).pdf?dl=0 PDF warning. They are basically saying Imperial College is full of hot air and that the majority of people in Italy and the UK are already infected and the case fatality rate is therefore only a small fraction of what was projected. So they should be reaching herd immunity soon. I have a really hard time buying this but I will let the data convince me. Luckily this is a theory that can be tested. This will be very interesting. Thanks for the link. Read it. Two quick points. First, there's some discussion of "reinfection" that would draw into question "the assumption that infection elicits protective immunity." Second, aren't they also presupposing a single strain? I don't know enough underlying science, but let's say for lack of better terminology "the Italian strain" is far more aggressive than the "Taiwan Strain" - and so, mortality is differentiated between those two countries based less on response than on exposure. That might muddy the model, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfox Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jimi said: Thanks for the link. Read it. Two quick points. First, there's some discussion of "reinfection" that would draw into question "the assumption that infection elicits protective immunity." Second, aren't they also presupposing a single strain? I don't know enough underlying science, but let's say for lack of better terminology "the Italian strain" is far more aggressive than the "Taiwan Strain" - and so, mortality is differentiated between those two countries based less on response than on exposure. That might muddy the model, no? That would mean that Covid 19 has already mutated? So quickly? That would make it even harder to find the right vaccine, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fxfox Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, sandy beach said: I'm blind on this. What we need to do is go to the ground zero hot spots in the US like NY, WA and CA and start a series of random serology tests and see just how widespread the infection is so we can see what is going on. If most people have antibodies as this is suggesting then we are closer to the finish line than anyone suspected and this is much less deadly than anyone suspected. This would be easy and cheap and we could get results in days. I just can't believe that we are making such huge policy decisions without doing this first. I'm still trying to wrap my head around their arguments. But their basic position about needing to do sampling of the population is spot on. to make sample studies would be absolutely vital I think. 1000-1200 partipiciants would be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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